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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 2, 2017 17:01:01 GMT -5
12.14 The Raid 3-2-17
A chance to take out a nest of vampires backfires when the alpha-vamp shows up and turns the tables on Mary and the British Men of Letters who are trying to recruit Sam and Dean.
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Post by novemberschild on Mar 3, 2017 21:20:44 GMT -5
This will never be a favorite of mine, I am actually kind of confused about it.
I loved Sam and Dean arguing with Mary and telling her to get out, Mary was and is wrong for what she is doing or has done, and trying to sugarcoat it for the guys is not going to make he look any better. I like Peacemaker Sam, he sees the good and bad in someone and tries to find a way to make it work, I get Mary is his mom and she wants to smooth things over, and I understand he has no memories or anything from his mom, and is desperate to have something from her. I liked that he was suspicious of the BMOL, but his decision at the end was very unexpected and I wonder if he is being truthful, or if there is something going on that we don't know yet. I was really confused in his reaction to the colt, he almost cried when he saw it, is it because it has been so long since he saw it, or Is it because he realizes that Mary almost got them all killed by her stealing it from Ramiel? I need some answers.
Ketch and Dean talking was odd, but I think Dean going with Ketch was more calculated then Ketch thought it might be. I am hoping the guys are just trying to find out what they can about BMOL, and then make them go away somehow at the end of the season. I didn't like Ketch calling Dean a killer, Dean has killed a lot, but mostly bad things or bad people.
I don't understand why the guys would ever want to work the BMOL considering what happened to Sam and Dean at the beginning of the season.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 3, 2017 23:59:47 GMT -5
My overall view of the episode is that it was exciting.
Mary explained she had been working with the BMOL for longer than I realized, and I understood why her sons were disappointed in her. Mary envisions a world without monsters and her sons could have a normal life. When Dean called her “Mary”, I knew he was beyond angry. I was shocked, but impressed, with Dean when he told her to get out. Then Dean told Sam to stop being in the middle and to pick a side.
I think Dean’s frustration and anger played a part in him going on a hunt with Ketch. Dean told Sam earlier he needed to hunt or punch something and Ketch offered a vampire nest hunt. They keep reminding the boys that the woman went rogue and tortured them and the BMOL did not want that. Ketch is a real killer/murderer and should not even try to compare Dean with himself.
The grand tour of the BMOL temporary facility was impressive and they had done an enviable job of clearing out the vampires in the region. I can understand why Sam was impressed. When Sam looked dewy-eyed when he saw the Colt, I assumed it gave him memories of John and the time they spent with it. Mary and Sam did an excellent job of defending the staff against the vampires. Ketch must be the only one on their staff who can fight.
When Dean feared he would lose Mary, he got over his anger and let her know how important she is to him. Now I have to wait and see how Dean reacts when he learns his brother plans to work with the BMOL.
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Post by SoCal on Mar 5, 2017 20:39:44 GMT -5
Dean is seriously mad at his mom. And rightly so. But throwing her out? Who are the "old men" of the BMOL? And why do they want Dean and Sam "on board" with them? Is Sam really playing the middle? Or is Dean just pissed that Sam doesn't agree with him? Why are the BMOL hunting vampires in the U.S? The Alpha!?!?!?!?!?!?! Wow, that was unexpected. Ketch is a lousy recruiter. Did the Alpha take the last nest with him to the BMOL's temporary lair? Yup. Obvious question....how did the vamps know where to find the BMOL? Does the Alpha know all? Poor Mary and Sam. They had better be careful. I wouldn't trust those BMOL guys to look out for them. Can Dean and Ketch get there in time? Everyone but Mary and Sam hides and locks themselves in. Bastards. The Colt!?!?!?!?!? Sam can't believe that his mom would steal the Colt and not tell Dean and him. The "hunter" from New Orleans is a plant? Huh? How'd they manage that? Loved the Alpha....."I didn't care much about England, well, because it's England, but AMERICA is my home. GET OFF MY LAWN!" Best line of the episode. Well, Sam finally got his own Colt moment. I must admit, I'm kind of sorry to see the Alpha vamp go. He did seem to keep things level. Cops and robbers, etc. O well, all bad guys eventually meet their end at the Winchesters hands. So Mick has learned he may have to dirty his pretty BMOL hands. WHAT? WHY IS SAM JOINING THE BMOL? IS IT REAL? IS IT A GAME? It better be a game.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 5, 2017 23:37:25 GMT -5
I can tell you were paying attention. I am used to Sam lying to Dean, but it did not cross my mind he was lying to his mother. That would be necessary though if he wants to trick the BMOL. I usually like the bad boys and the cool guys. Mr. Ketch is both, but I am not a fan.
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Post by SoCal on Mar 6, 2017 12:42:36 GMT -5
Anti, I was afraid at first, that the bottle of Scotch Ketch was tempting Dean with, might be drugged or poisoned.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 6, 2017 17:48:26 GMT -5
Anti, I was afraid at first, that the bottle of Scotch Ketch was tempting Dean with, might be drugged or poisoned. I was wary of that too. For one thing, Ketch knows a lot about the Winchesters and when did they ever drink expensive scotch? Seemed weird to me.
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Post by Aeryn on Mar 6, 2017 21:05:09 GMT -5
Dean going off on his mom WAS childish...I didn't start REALLY watching until Sam went to the BMOL. Clever Sam! Basically I only liked Mary, Sam, and the Alpha. And Baby of course!!
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 6, 2017 21:23:14 GMT -5
Dean's talking to Mary like that was good for shock value. I think my mouth dropped open. Dean can do no wrong as far as I am concerned.
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Post by novemberschild on Mar 11, 2017 12:23:41 GMT -5
Aeryn, I like your avatar, I always liked dark Willow.
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