Re: The Castiel Skeptics Society

[DeanandSam]

Feb 1, 2012 12:18:08 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Feb 1, 2012 12:09:02 GMT -5 windykl said:

my fear is that the writers will give them what they want...dean will forgive/forget what cas did and welcome him back into the "family" and i'm so tired of hearing about the dean/cas couples poll on e! online...i guess i just don't see this great love/chemistry btw them

Believe me I understand yout fears!!

But what do you think, why did SPN won the PCA? Because of Dean-Castiel? Never ever! That's only the fault of Jared/Jensen and the unique brotherhood (okay once unique).
Those Destiel shippers even threatened to vote against SPN and give the vote to other shows and look what happened!!! They have no voice for real, that's clear as sunlight. The only thing is what do produces, showrunners, directors, when they are bombardiered via twitter. Its like the 'Dean has no story-line' twitter call

Cas/Dean fans scare me. They really think that if Dean and Cas won the e online poll for best couples, than Misha and Jensen will do a photoshoot for it , talk about delusional. If I had the energy I would spend all my time voting against them, but I don't have the energy to do that, so all I can do is laugh at them

[Aeryn]

Feb 1, 2012 12:23:31 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Feb 1, 2012 12:01:01 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

Ich habe nur nach dem Cas Bilder für einen Witz. Ich hätte nie gedacht, einige Leute würden so ernst sein.

Yeah Castiel is a joke for our eyes!

We are serious people But I prefer pics like what I said. Would you search for such a pic? ;D Please ? Aeryn
You would get a karma from me!!! My very first karma I give!

Oh, very well. Since you asked so nicely, I'll look.

[MariaARIS3]

OK... So, some random thoughts digging back some old shit and here I go...!
I was thinking about some interesting discussions we had back then at the Lounge. The debates (the fights if you prefer) and the issues that were coming up after those debates/fights!
Skeptics have often been accused that the only reason they hated Cas was because he was stealing the boys story and especially Sam's.
The truth is, that Sam has been pushed aside quite a few times in order for the writers to fanservice the Destiel fans. But in the end the show has never stopped being about Dean and Sam.

So, what are the reasons that made ME hate Cas?
Because,I never saw Cas as a real friend to the boys (Well, he was never Sam's friend anyway!)
Let's take season's one by one:
Season 4:
Cas got Dean out of Hell. Why? Because Dean was pretty? No! Beacause he had orders to bring out the "righteous man" who happened to be Dean.
Did he and Dean developed a special relationship that season? No! Cas was supposed to guide Dean to stop the Apocalypse and at the same time he warned him about his brother going dark side...(and made sure to have Dean find out that Sam has demon blood in him and that he had been working on his psychic powers and had been exorcising demons with his mind)
What should be done to stop the Apocalypse? Kill Lilith. At least that's what Ruby had told Sam. Also, that's what the angels -including Cas- also told Dean.
And let's say that Cas didn't know the plan from the beginning... At some point he found out. He was supposed to warn Dean but he was taken back to Heaven and was somehow brainwashed.
And instead of helping Dean, he set Sam free from the panic room and then kept Dean in the Green Room so that he couldn't reach Sam. Zach and Cas reveal the real plan to Dean, that Sam will kill Lilith and this will be the final seal and of course this means that Sam would be wasted in order for the Angels to succeed in their plan.
You all know what happened next, Cas eventually decides to help Dean, only that it was already too late...
What is Castiel's alibi for all this? He was a soldier in a war, so he had to blindly follow orders no matter how he felt about them.
Accepted, because this is Rule #1 in the Army and especially during a war.
But after Cas decided to rebel, did he ever took responsibility of his actions? The answer is NO! NEVER!

And this brings us to Season 5:
In the first episodes Cas accuses both brothers and especially Sam for bringing the Apocalypse. He even dared to tell Sam that when he had the chance to make the right choice, he didn't.
What would be the right choice? To not kill Lilith. But about what choice are we talking about here? Sam thought that the right choice was to kill Lilith. Would he have killed her, if he had known that killing her he would set Lucifer free? No!
Who knew that the right choice was NOT to kill Lilith? Castiel! Who chose not to tell Dean? Castiel! Who chose to free Sam so that he could go kill Lilith? Castiel!
So, out of Sam and Castiel who had the chance to make the right choice and he didn't???
I have to say here that in the middle of season 5, I started liking Cas, since I felt that he was really on the boys' side this time. And I continued liking him until the revelations in season 6...

Season 6:
From the beginning we see Cas saying that he has done some regrettable things. We didn't find out about them until the episode Eve gets killed and "dead" Crowley reappears.
It turns out that Cas has been working with Crowley all along. Cas got Sam out of the pit, only that he left his soul there. Unpurposed? Unpurposed, I'll accept that.
Why did he get Sam out? Because he saw how broken Dean was? If that was the reason, why didn't he tell Dean that he had gotten Sam out right after he did it???
Obviously because he needed Sam to help him with the Alphas.
SO, for a whole year he kept Dean in the dark about Sam being out. He put Crowley in the front to have Samuel work with him and Samuel approached Sam to hunt with him. All this time Sam had no idea that he was working for Crowley and Samuel had no idea that Crowley was working with Cas.
Cas even faked Crowley's death to throw ashes into the boys' eyes.
Eventually the boys and Bobby find out not only that Cas had been working with Crowley all along but that he had also brought back Sam soulless.
Dean still wants to try to help Cas. He tries to make him change his mind about his crazy plan to open Purgatory. Cas is determined to follow his original plan. When he realizes that the boys will try to stop him, he decides to do sth extreme to get them out of his way. He tears down Sam's wall and we all know the consequences...
Did Cas have another, less violent choice? Of course he had. But he didn't take it...
Are there any real excuse for Cas about all this??? Facts say no...

(I'll be back later to make some comparisons between Sam's actions in season 4 and Cas's actions in season 6, just to prove that the two cases have absolutely nothing in common...)

Shit! That was a long post!

[Aeryn]

Okay shadowhund...here you are.

[shadowhund]

Feb 1, 2012 13:05:30 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

OK... So, some random thoughts digging back some old shit and here I go...!
I was thinking about some interesting discussions we had back then at the Lounge. The debates (the fights if you prefer) and the issues that were coming up after those debates/fights!
Skeptics have often been accused that the only reason they hated Cas was because he was stealing the boys story and especially Sam's.
The truth is, that Sam has been pushed aside quite a few times in order for the writers to fanservice the Destiel fans. But in the end the show has never stopped being about Dean and Sam.

So, what are the reasons that made ME hate Cas?
Because,I never saw Cas as a real friend to the boys (Well, he was never Sam's friend anyway!)
Let's take season's one by one:
Season 4:
Cas got Dean out of Hell. Why? Because Dean was pretty? No! Beacause he had orders to bring out the "righteous man" who happened to be Dean.
Did he and Dean developed a special relationship that season? No! Cas was supposed to guide Dean to stop the Apocalypse and at the same time he warned him about his brother going dark side...(and made sure to have Dean find out that Sam has demon blood in him and that he had been working on his psychic powers and had been exorcising demons with his mind)
What should be done to stop the Apocalypse? Kill Lilith. At least that's what Ruby had told Sam. Also, that's what the angels -including Cas- also told Dean.
And let's say that Cas didn't know the plan from the beginning... At some point he found out. He was supposed to warn Dean but he was taken back to Heaven and was somehow brainwashed.
And instead of helping Dean, he set Sam free from the panic room and then kept Dean in the Green Room so that he couldn't reach Sam. Zach and Cas reveal the real plan to Dean, that Sam will kill Lilith and this will be the final seal and of course this means that Sam would be wasted in order for the Angels to succeed in their plan.
You all know what happened next, Cas eventually decides to help Dean, only that it was already too late...
What is Castiel's alibi for all this? He was a soldier in a war, so he had to blindly follow orders no matter how he felt about them.
Accepted, because this is Rule #1 in the Army and especially during a war.
But after Cas decided to rebel, did he ever took responsibility of his actions? The answer is NO! NEVER!

And this brings us to Season 5:
In the first episodes Cas accuses both brothers and especially Sam for bringing the Apocalypse. He even dared to tell Sam that when he had the chance to make the right choice, he didn't.
What would be the right choice? To not kill Lilith. But about what choice are we talking about here? Sam thought that the right choice was to kill Lilith. Would he have killed her, if he had known that killing her he would set Lucifer free? No!
Who knew that the right choice was NOT to kill Lilith? Castiel! Who chose not to tell Dean? Castiel! Who chose to free Sam so that he could go kill Lilith? Castiel!
So, out of Sam and Castiel who had the chance to make the right choice and he didn't???
I have to say here that in the middle of season 5, I started liking Cas, since I felt that he was really on the boys' side this time. And I continued liking him until the revelations in season 6...

Season 6:
From the beginning we see Cas saying that he has done some regrettable things. We didn't find out about them until the episode Eve gets killed and "dead" Crowley reappears.
It turns out that Cas has been working with Crowley all along. Cas got Sam out of the pit, only that he left his soul there. Unpurposed? Unpurposed, I'll accept that.
Why did he get Sam out? Because he saw how broken Dean was? If that was the reason, why didn't he tell Dean that he had gotten Sam out right after he did it???
Obviously because he needed Sam to help him with the Alphas.
SO, for a whole year he kept Dean in the dark about Sam being out. He put Crowley in the front to have Samuel work with him and Samuel approached Sam to hunt with him. All this time Sam had no idea that he was working for Crowley and Samuel had no idea that Crowley was working with Cas.
Cas even faked Crowley's death to throw ashes into the boys' eyes.
Eventually the boys and Bobby find out not only that Cas had been working with Crowley all along but that he had also brought back Sam soulless.
Dean still wants to try to help Cas. He tries to make him change his mind about his crazy plan to open Purgatory. Cas is determined to follow his original plan. When he realizes that the boys will try to stop him, he decides to do sth extreme to get them out of his way. He tears down Sam's wall and we all know the consequences...
Did Cas have another, less violent choice? Of course he had. But he didn't take it...
Are there any real excuse for Cas about all this??? Facts say no...

(I'll be back later to make some comparisons between Sam's actions in season 4 and Cas's actions in season 6, just to prove that the two cases have absolutely nothing in common...)

Shit! That was a long post!

I didn't read it to the end only to the middle of your post and its already enough to see that he is self-righteous, manipulating, not a real friend (he never can be a friend) He feels superior to humans when he is supernatural, without powers Castiel just used Winchesters!

Alltogether because it feels good!

[shadowhund]

Feb 1, 2012 13:06:01 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

Okay shadowhund...here you are.

Wow great

Now you will get your Karma up from me!

[shadowhund]

BTW Where did it come from? Where did you get this pic?

[Cinca]

Well, thought to say hi in here too. *waves awkwardly*

[shadowhund]

Cinca, welcome to the Skeptiks Society

[zenezie]

Feb 1, 2012 13:05:30 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

So, what are the reasons that made ME hate Cas?

My intense dislike of Cas all boils down to two things: he NEVER owned his mistakes and he destroyed the only protection between Sam and Hell.

Honestly I barely notice when Cas in on screen and when I did noticed it's because he was a funny distraction and nothing more. But what bugged me endlessly was that he never owned his actions when he helped start the Apocalypse. Cas would rather leave Sam in Hell than actually admit he made a honest mistake, and he's always blaming others i.e. trying to blame Ellie's death on Crowley. Having to deal with sociopaths for most of my life, the lack of personal accountability is a very big issue with me and Cas' refusal to take personal responsibility is a trigger. Sam and Dean own their mistakes, make amends, and try to move on. Cas continues to create train wrecks and refuse to own them. In the end it is always Sam who pays a heavy price for the screw ups of others; Cas simply continues that tradition.

[zenezie]

Feb 1, 2012 13:39:34 GMT -5 Cinca said:

Well, thought to say hi in here too. *waves awkwardly*

Welcome and make yourself at home!

[Cinca]

Thanks guys. And zenezie I agree with you SO much. Actually that is why I always wanted scene in S5 with a furius Dean confronting Castiel with what he did in S4. Whats more, we never saw any consequences to what he did to Anna and she directly told Dean everything.

[Aeryn]

Feb 1, 2012 13:39:08 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

BTW Where did it come from? Where did you get this pic?

I just googled Changing Channels and went through the pictures.

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 1, 2012 13:39:34 GMT -5 Cinca said:

Well, thought to say hi in here too. *waves awkwardly*

It's so nice to see you here girl!

[1027phoenix]

Feb 1, 2012 13:58:39 GMT -5 zenezie said:

Feb 1, 2012 13:05:30 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

So, what are the reasons that made ME hate Cas?

My intense dislike of Cas all boils down to two things: he NEVER owned his mistakes and he destroyed the only protection between Sam and Hell.

Honestly I barely notice when Cas in on screen and when I did noticed it's because he was a funny distraction and nothing more. But what bugged me endlessly was that he never owned his actions when he helped start the Apocalypse. Cas would rather leave Sam in Hell than actually admit he made a honest mistake, and he's always blaming others i.e. trying to blame Ellie's death on Crowley. Having to deal with sociopaths for most of my life, the lack of personal accountability is a very big issue with me and Cas' refusal to take personal responsibility is a trigger. Sam and Dean own their mistakes, make amends, and try to move on. Cas continues to create train wrecks and refuse to own them. In the end it is always Sam who pays a heavy price for the screw ups of others; Cas simply continues that tradition.

Exactly! He is just a lying liar who lies with almost every breath he takes. I despise him.

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 1, 2012 23:43:38 GMT -5 @ohleesa said:

Feb 1, 2012 13:41:01 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Cinca, welcome to the Skeptiks Society

Welcome Cinca.

Are you from the CW Lounge?

No, she isn't! See? There are way more Castiel skeptics out there (and I'm not talking about Cinca only) than some people want to believe! It wasn't just us on the Lounge!

BTW, I tried to find sth about CSS on the Lounge through Google and all I could get was this
boardreader.com/thread/The_Castiel_Skeptics_Society_PLEASE_READ_awjjXbd2f.html
and one more page similar to this...
Anyway, the number of the total authors of this thread is quite interesting! About 200 different people...Again, way more than just the 5-10 some people wanted to believe! Not to mention those who might not hate the character, but they don't give a fuck if he exists or not either!

[MariaARIS3]

So, today I'm thinking of writing why Castiel's actions in season 6 have nothing to do with Sam's actions in season 4. Things are really simple here, so I don't need to make such a long post as the previous one.
(I'm sure that some people of course will think "oh, look! A Sam girl is trying to justify Sam's actions with his demon blood addiction!)
The truth is that Sam was a demon blood addict back then... So, what was the horrible thing that Sam did back in season 4? Drinking demon blood? He wasn't hurting anyone but himself... Lying to Dean? His lie about exorcising demons with his mind didn't last more than 3 episodes... His lie about drinking demon blood lasted longer, but like I said, Sam wasn't hurting anyone but himself.
I remember a lot of Sam haters back on the Lounge keep mentioning that Sam did hurt people and they were of course referring to that possessed nurse he killed in order to drink more blood... And they had a point... until Swan Song, where Sam AND Dean, with Castiel's blessings killed a lot more possessed people, so that Sam could have all the demon blood he needed to be able to contain Lucifer.
And after that, I think that the nurse issue is no longer a valid argument!
What was Sam's other horrible mistake? Killing Lilith and breaking the last seal. Why?Because he was manipulated by Ruby that killing Lilith would actually stop the Apocalupse. At the same time Dean was manipulated by the angels (including Cas) about the very same thing.

Manipulation... Was Cas manipulated in season 6? His fans seem to think so, by Crowley... But really,how exactly was Cas manipulated by Crowley? Did Crowley trick him so that he would open Purgatory without knowing? Did Crowley recruited soulless Sam to do the dirty job without Castiel's knowledge? the answer is NO. Castiel knew exactly what the results of opening Purgatory would be and he chose to take the risk. Was he desperate? YES. Was he manipulated? Hell NO! Crowley explained the plan from the beginning and Castiel decided to go along with it. And as for hurting people with his actions, he DID hurt Sam and Dean and noone can deny that.
I don't understand people who got to the point of being satisfied for what happened to Sam (and to Dean by an extend) because the boys were the ones who betrayed Cas by not supporting him. REALLY???
I've seen people feeling more sorry for Balthazar getting killed than Sam's wall being taken down (in fact Balthazar getting killed was for them the only bad thing Cas did). And I've seen them being super mad at Sam and saying that they will never be able to forgive him for stabbing Cas... "Two measures and two weights" I guess, when it comes to support your favorite character but without having any valid points...
Now how exactly the boys betrayed Cas, when they didn't know about his plan for a year and a half (yet Dean kept asking Cas if he needed any help) and when Dean, even after he found out what Cas did he still offered to help him and how Sam (who had to suffer from all those soulless and especially the hell memories in order to go and save his brother, because he saw how dangerous Cad had become) is the bad guy for backstabbing Cas, these are things that can only be answered by science!

(I think this was shorter than the other one! ;D)

[shadowhund]

Maria, great post!


Do you still stumble over comments about Sam? That his actions are the same like Castiels?

I am thinking that some people who cheer up because Castiel is back don't see what he has done to the brothers relationship. He destroyed almost the bond, like Ruby did.

He was more close to them then it suited him while he was (was he?) powerless in S5. Returning to his full powers made him someone again, who is using humans for his own good.

We should still watch this show from the brothers POV, and not the POV from the being who was a big manipulator over the whole time.

Angels and demons worked together to use both brothers for their own advantage, maybe without knowing, we will never find out.


The return of Castiel is for me not exciting, not in the least, I wish, he would never come back, because I see during his comeback a different Dean, who should care for his brothers well being instead of bonding with the being who harmed Sam. I think we won't get this Dean back, who would do anything to protect Sam. And I think Castiels return will give his fans a satisfying leaving from the show so that their fantasies are again restored and have been made for some fan fiction stories. And for that I am disgusted.

We should care about the brothers and what this supernatural being did to them, especially to Sam!

I don't like when people saying on twitter and on other places "we all want Castiel back" because this is not true.There are many people outside who don't want him back. They are only a little more quiet and doesn't search the attention in tweeting to the producers and don't letting them their privacy!

If Destiel was canon, the show wouldn't have won the PCA!

Sam's story is despite the lack of Castiel indeed poorly written,so it is not the fault of the character Castiel that Sam is sidelined and almost personally cut out from his own story and a mystery kept in himself and a mystery kept FROM us viewers too!

[benson35]

au.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/tvs_top_couples_tournament_vote_sweet_16/290410

Shadow, girls go vote against this. For Deans sake, for Jensen's sake for Superanturals sake. Its so sad that we have supporters like this. so sad.

[shadowhund]

Feb 2, 2012 4:16:00 GMT -5 benson35 said:

au.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/tvs_top_couples_tournament_vote_sweet_16/290410

Shadow, girls go vote against this. For Deans sake, for Jensen's sake for Superanturals sake. Its so sad that we have supporters like this. so sad.

I don't want to go there, its ridiculous! I don't care for that E!Online shit!

[benson35]

I think its embarassing but I really really really feel for Jensen to have this character so maligned like this. Its like he's become fodder for the gay angel. DW is a powerhouse and this is how he could be remembered...NOT ON MY WATCH!

[shadowhund]

Feb 2, 2012 4:21:08 GMT -5 benson35 said:

I think its embarassing but I really really really feel for Jensen to have this character so maligned like this. Its like he's become fodder for the gay angel. DW is a powerhouse and this is how he could be remembered...NOT ON MY WATCH!

But...but Jensen could have done a stop to that, when he would have decided not to pull the trenchcoat out from the water. Well maybe not a STOP, but a sign!

The show gave us a sign when Dean threw the Samulet in the trash and then the show gave us a sign with Dean pulling that dirty coat out from the mud, really Jensen, really Dean?

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 2, 2012 4:16:00 GMT -5 benson35 said:

au.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/tvs_top_couples_tournament_vote_sweet_16/290410

Shadow, girls go vote against this. For Deans sake, for Jensen's sake for Superanturals sake. Its so sad that we have supporters like this. so sad.

Honestly ben? What's the point? I'm pretty sure that Dean and Cas will win the poll, not because there are so many fans that view them as a couple, but because those that do have nothing better to do in their pathetic lives than to try and prove that sth that exists only in their sick imagination is actually canon... And they're so obsessed with it, that they'll sit hours over hours on they computer to make sure that they'll win this poll. Because they think that by winning this poll they make fake canon and they think that tptb might listen to them...
Why bother mess with the psychos? It is indeed sad, but stupidity is invincible...

[shadowhund]

Jensen could have give all of them a big neon sign, but he decided different!

I don't know, benson, maybe later I go there and maybe I will write one commment what I think about this, but I will not vote. Not once! When they win, so be it!
We won the PCA, because of the brothers and the J's! That's way more important!

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 2, 2012 4:13:38 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Maria, great post!


Do you still stumble over comments about Sam? That his actions are the same like Castiels?

I am thinking that some people who cheer up because Castiel is back don't see what he has done to the brothers relationship. He destroyed almost the bond, like Ruby did.

He was more close to them then it suited him while he was (was he?) powerless in S5. Returning to his full powers made him someone again, who is using humans for his own good.

We should still watch this show from the brothers POV, and not the POV from the being who was a big manipulator over the whole time.

Angels and demons worked together to use both brothers for their own advantage, maybe without knowing, we will never find out.


The return of Castiel is for me not exciting, not in the least, I wish, he would never come back, because I see during his comeback a different Dean, who should care for his brothers well being instead of bonding with the being who harmed Sam. I think we won't get this Dean back, who would do anything to protect Sam. And I think Castiels return will give his fans a satisfying leaving from the show so that their fantasies are again restored and have been made for some fan fiction stories. And for that I am disgusted.

We should care about the brothers and what this supernatural being did to them, especially to Sam!

I don't like when people saying on twitter and on other places "we all want Castiel back" because this is not true.There are many people outside who don't want him back. They are only a little more quiet and doesn't search the attention in tweeting to the producers and don't letting them their privacy!

If Destiel was canon, the show wouldn't have won the PCA!

Sam's story is despite the lack of Castiel indeed poorly written,so it is not the fault of the character Castiel that Sam is sidelined and almost personally cut out from his own story and a mystery kept in himself and a mystery kept FROM us viewers too!

Good morning soulmate! I don't stumble into comments like that anymore, becasue I chose not to... I'm sure that a quick visit on TWOP will make my blood pressure climb to 200mmHg! But the comments I'm referring to here, were mostly made in the Lounge, by some not so "extreme" fans... (well, at least they didn't consider themselves extreme... )

[shadowhund]

Hi Maria, I will drive to my parents now with two (!) dogs for the whole day. I go there into the woods and go to the pet doctor with their cat for vaccinating and its freezing cold here! Grrrrgh!! Maybe snow will start to fall soon, but now its sunny outside, but c...c...c..coooold..d.! He he, you understand?

I come back this evening. Maybe I am that late , that I can't be there in the beginning of our re-watching of AHBL 1, I think don't wait for me, when I come I fast forward to watch with you all together!

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 2, 2012 4:42:45 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Hi Maria, I will drive to my parents now with two (!) dogs for the whole day. I go there into the woods and go to the pet doctor with their cat for vaccinating and its freezing cold here! Grrrrgh!! Maybe snow will start to fall soon, but now its sunny outside, but c...c...ccolllddd..dddd! He he, you understand?

I come back this evening. Maybe I am that late , that I can't be there in the beginning of our re-watching of AHBL 1, I think don't wait for me, when I come I fast forward to watch with you all together!

Have a safe drive girl! It's damn cold here too. The temperature will reach 1°C top... But still no snow... (while in Athens it's been snowing the last couple of days aaarrrggghhh!). Next week (the one I return to work) is supposed to be even worse!

I hope you get back soon enough to watch with us! If not, at least just come to chat!

[shadowhund]

Yeah, Maria I do!

When there is snow you should drive to the hills so you can go sledding with your kids!

The thing with me is that I am still not feeling well. This tube catarrh is still there and I have headache, ear ache and my throat hurts and I almost can't speak. My voice is hoarse!Yeah I would like to stay at home! Hmm, but I have a free day and promised my parents to come!

See you tonight for rewatching one of the great episodes of SPN!

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 2, 2012 4:56:44 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Yeah, Maria I do!

When there is snow you should drive to the hills so you can go sledding with your kids!

The thing with me is that I am still not feeling well. This tube catarrh is still there and I have headache, ear ache and my throat hurts and I almost can't speak. My voice is hoarse!Yeah I would like to stay at home! Hmm, but I have a free day and promised my parents to come!

See you tonight for rewatching one of the great episodes of SPN!

I hope you feel better soon! *hugs*
See you tonight! AHBL I, yay!!!

[windykl]

hey ya'll! i've been roaming around twitter and 2 spn fans were at the set yesterday and met/talked to misha...apparently he was filming a scene with jensen...one of the girls said he was dressed in smth unexpected for castiel....but wouldn't spoil what it was...one of them said misha was "very glad to be back on spn set"....i just hope he's not staying long

@benson, don't worry--i've been voting against them too....i do wonder how jensen feels about it? cuz in the past i kinda thought he and misha played it up to the fans....