Re: The Castiel Skeptics Society

[Lostcause]

It's not so much the advice, as it is the father figure I think.
No matter how wise Sam is, and how much Dean loves his brother, he's always needed a father figure. First John, then Bobby...and now? Now he takes what he can get.

[benson35]

You think? I'd say he should stop taking advice from people that don't know him. lol. Again with the 'not talking about it' 'let it eat at you as long as you've got a smile on your face you'll be cool'.

Where a wiser person would say, talk to your brother, he's the only other person alive that is going through the same thing. Of course move on, smile...but the professional thing was annoying.

I think for me the boys have grown up and its time to allow them to talk now.

[spoilerwolf]

Hey guys,

I'm sure most recognize me - I went with my most common screen name Don't know how often I'll be here, as I'll be busy at the other place, but I'll check in once in a while perhaps to say hi.

[sarahg6]

Jan 8, 2012 3:11:17 GMT -5 spoilerwolf said:

Hey guys,

I'm sure most recognize me - I went with my most common screen name Don't know how often I'll be here, as I'll be busy at the other place, but I'll check in once in a while perhaps to say hi.

Hi Spoilerwolf. Good to see you. What did you think of Friday's epi?

[Lostcause]

Heya Spoilerwolf, nice of you to drop by

B-Dawg: I agree, in general taking the advice of overly paranoid loners tend to be a bad idea

[sarahg6]

Jan 8, 2012 1:41:41 GMT -5 benson35 said:

You think? I'd say he should stop taking advice from people that don't know him. lol. Again with the 'not talking about it' 'let it eat at you as long as you've got a smile on your face you'll be cool'.

Where a wiser person would say, talk to your brother, he's the only other person alive that is going through the same thing. Of course move on, smile...but the professional thing was annoying.

I think for me the boys have grown up and its time to allow them to talk now.

Frank could be interesting, he's played by a terrific actor. They have him so paranoid looney, I don't know what he can do with the role. Certainly not replace Bobby. I'm willing to wait and see how he fits in.

I agree Ben, the boys are grown up. I wish they'd start writing them that way. It is time for them both to let their hair down and talk. The jokes about Sam and Lucifer are getting old. Also, the gotcha at the end where Dean smiles through tears is sad to me, its time he quit acting a mad teen and becomes part of the team. The two have been rebonding in S7 The writers could let this bond show. Let them depend on each other as promised! I'd be happy!

[sarahg6]

Sorry I double posted and it wouldn't let me delete, so I thought I'd take a minute to send some beautiful Sam and Dean love to all my Skeptic sisters and brothers. :heart: :heart: :heart:

[sarahg6]

Jan 8, 2012 1:34:50 GMT -5 Lostcause said:

It's not so much the advice, as it is the father figure I think.
No matter how wise Sam is, and how much Dean loves his brother, he's always needed a father figure. First John, then Bobby...and now? Now he takes what he can get.

I'm not sure this is true. I'm hoping Frank is more a quacky friend, not father. We'll have to see if he fits the show and how he will fit in the guys lives.

[benson35]

Hey spoiler, glad your checking in. I miss all the opinions and theorising amoungst the gang.

[zenezie]

Just an update on some of the shenanigans over at YouTube.

Since the JS can't remove anti-Cas comments due to too many thumb-up votes ;D, they've resorted to flagging the comments as spams.

Occasionally I go through and press the "not a spam" button and it does work as I noticed at least one of the anti-Cas comment was returned in full glory, so I'll keep doing it. And because I'm petty, I'm thumb-downing their comments which I used to never do because, you know, free speech and all. Others must be doing the same because this one especially hyper JS's comment were removed "due to too many negative votes." Mind you these anti-Cas comments always contain canon to back up the list of Cas' misdeeds while throwing in some pro-Dean and pro-Sam along the way. It's one of the reason why the JS are still being kicked in the nuts.

[benson35]

Jan 8, 2012 21:29:38 GMT -5 zenezie said:

Mind you these anti-Cas comments always contain canon to back up the list of Cas' misdeeds while throwing in some pro-Dean and pro-Sam along the way. It's one of the reason why the JS are still being kicked in the nuts.

You are hysterical Zenezie. I've got to love what you do and how you do it and this comment above had me rolling in the ailes. Its so true. 'kicked in nuts'. Gotta hurt that canon!!!

[zenezie]

Oh yeah Benson, canon (like truth) hurts!
In the clip where Dean and Cas argues at the end of ManWhoWouldBeKing eppie, there is this archived debate between a Cas fan (not a JS) and a non-Cas fan. The latter kept asking for episodes to back up the Cas fan's comments and she graciously admitted that all her pro-Cas speculations are off screen and not based on any episodes. The debate ended in agreement that men don't talk to eachother.

I also noticed that because the JS can't use canon to back up their fantasies, they resort to what ever Ben Englund/writers said about Dean and Cas. The nut kicking continues by pointing out that 90% of the fans don't stalk.... I mean track public statements by actors and writers and only care about what shows up on screen, you know, canon! And besides, often what writers say in public comes back to bite them in the ass is a big way AND later storylines nullify the previous public statements i.e. Kripke swearing up and down that angels will never be part of SPN. This comment was flagged as "spam" by the JS and I'm hoping I can help "un-spam" it and return the comment to it's rightful place.

[shadowhund]

Jan 8, 2012 21:29:38 GMT -5 zenezie said:

Just an update on some of the shenanigans over at YouTube.

Since the JS can't remove anti-Cas comments due to too many thumb-up votes ;D, they've resorted to flagging the comments as spams.

Occasionally I go through and press the "not a spam" button and it does work as I noticed at least one of the anti-Cas comment was returned in full glory, so I'll keep doing it. And because I'm petty, I'm thumb-downing their comments which I used to never do because, you know, free speech and all. Others must be doing the same because this one especially hyper JS's comment were removed "due to too many negative votes." Mind you these anti-Cas comments always contain canon to back up the list of Cas' misdeeds while throwing in some pro-Dean and pro-Sam along the way. It's one of the reason why the JS are still being kicked in the nuts.

Something on Youtube?


zenezie I am so glad you made your way to this place. Looking forward to your comments VERY MUCH


Another thing is that I am wondering about Castiel in the intro. They showed trenchcoat and after that a Dean in the car staring and like he would think of Castiel. I ddon't know whether this is all just service or whether this is more than that.........a foreshadowing of something different I clearly don't want to happen.

I will feel pissed (very much) when Dean is not murderous furious at Castiel for not sparing Sam memories of his cage time. Castiel indeed took Sam as leverage plain and simple. But well Dean has changed to much since hell

[zenezie]

Hey Shadowhund!
Thank you so much for telling me about this board, it feels so nice to be back on familiar ground that feels like home.

"shenanigans on YouTube", shenanigans usually means messing around, playing jokes on other people, mischief, and annoying activities that can get you into trouble. It's generally harmless activities but it has high annoying qualities. The JS are trying to make anti-Cas comments disappear on YouTube with their annoying actions of flagging those comments as "spam". But all you have to do to go click on the "not spam" buttons couple times and eventually those comments come back.

[Tinker]

Ok, I am quite sure that I should know, but nevertheless...
What is the JS?

Oh, and Zenezie - glad to have you aboard!

[zenezie]

Jan 9, 2012 20:43:12 GMT -5 Tinker said:

Ok, I am quite sure that I should know, but nevertheless...
What is the JS?

"JS" is short for Jefferson Starship, a nickname for the extreme Cas/Destiel fans. Not to be used on regular Cas fans who are a nice bunch of people, but the extreme ones are off the rails. The nickname was inspired by Dean's line in Mommy Dearest who named the new hybrid monsters Jefferson Starships because "they're horrible and hard to kill".

[Tinker]

Ahh, gotcha - thanks for the lesson

[benson35]

Jan 9, 2012 20:20:31 GMT -5 zenezie said:

Hey Shadowhund!
Thank you so much for telling me about this board, it feels so nice to be back on familiar ground that feels like home.

"shenanigans on YouTube", shenanigans usually means messing around, playing jokes on other people, mischief, and annoying activities that can get you into trouble. It's generally harmless activities but it has high annoying qualities. The JS are trying to make anti-Cas comments disappear on YouTube with their annoying actions of flagging those comments as "spam". But all you have to do to go click on the "not spam" buttons couple times and eventually those comments come back.

I still believe its none more than a dozen or so that are the ones that scream on the internet about this character. It just doesn't relate that he's even that popular when no one outside of the internet seems to even care he's there or knows his name.

Infact after watching season 5, I don't even notice him being there at all. Gees it must of been frustrating writing for him when he had next to no reason to be there.

[zenezie]

Jan 9, 2012 21:45:35 GMT -5 benson35 said:

I still believe its none more than a dozen or so that are the ones that scream on the internet about this character. It just doesn't relate that he's even that popular when no one outside of the internet seems to even care he's there or knows his name.

Infact after watching season 5, I don't even notice him being there at all. Gees it must of been frustrating writing for him when he had next to no reason to be there.

I'm certain you are right, Benson. If there were whole legions of them the JS would have no problem making anti-Cas comments disappear with negative votes, but they can't because those comments get too many positive votes. In fact I'm sure the votes for the anti-Cas comments would be alot higher if the JS weren't furiously trying to vote them down, and failing. The pro-Cas comments are left alone in clips featuring Cas, but anywhere else where he is not featured, most people seem to feel Cas shouldn't be mentioned. Really, the only reason why anti-Cas comments show up in the first place is because somebody makes a Cas-come-back-and-save-Dean type comments on a non-Cas clip and then comment war breaks loose. The JS are basically shooting themselves in the foot.

As of tonight 3 more JS comments were "removed due to too many negative votes" in the evil sandwich clip ("Dean is Stoned") of the Jersey Devil episode. I mean, seriously, of all the episode clips to have a war between non-Cas fans and the JS is where the evil sandwich is examined?

[Aeryn]

Nice avatar, Zenezie.

[spoilerwolf]

Jan 8, 2012 7:45:20 GMT -5 @sarahg6 said:

Jan 8, 2012 3:11:17 GMT -5 spoilerwolf said:

Hey guys,

I'm sure most recognize me - I went with my most common screen name Don't know how often I'll be here, as I'll be busy at the other place, but I'll check in once in a while perhaps to say hi.

Hi Spoilerwolf. Good to see you. What did you think of Friday's epi?

Hiya!

Umm... kind of 'meh'. Lot of things I didn't like, only a few things I did. You?

[spoilerwolf]

Jan 8, 2012 15:38:53 GMT -5 puppydreams said:

Jan 8, 2012 3:11:17 GMT -5 spoilerwolf said:

Hey guys,

I'm sure most recognize me - I went with my most common screen name Don't know how often I'll be here, as I'll be busy at the other place, but I'll check in once in a while perhaps to say hi.

SpoilerWolf! Hey welcome! I am so happy that you checked in! I know how busy you guys are, but I miss all of the various opinions. I hope that you can find the time to visit - we missed you!

I've missed you guys too! Hopefully we cross paths at both places

[MariaARIS3]

So guys, what are your predictions about Misha's return after SG's interview? Do you think he is coming back as Cas?

[1027phoenix]

Jan 11, 2012 2:49:44 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

So guys, what are your predictions about Misha's return after SG's interview? Do you think he is coming back as Cas?

I sure hope not. I'm hoping for a levi so the boys can finally get rid of him.

[MariaARIS3]

Jan 11, 2012 9:28:24 GMT -5 1027phoenix said:

Jan 11, 2012 2:49:44 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

So guys, what are your predictions about Misha's return after SG's interview? Do you think he is coming back as Cas?

I sure hope not. I'm hoping for a levi so the boys can finally get rid of him.

Ha, ha! My thoughts exactly!!!

[purpledragon1229]

OP has been updated w/important info. Please read. Thank you!

Okay so Sarah asked me to tweak my announcement because you guys did used to discuss things I said not to but that was because I made an announcement in all four 'specific' threads and copied and pasted the bad boy.

Basically we just wanted to let people know that this is for the people who don't trust him, not people who like him. So carry on with how things were and if you need me to reword it again I will!

Sorry for the anxiety!

Carry on!

[percysowner]

Just to let everyone know, we had to put my cat Ben to sleep tonight. He came upstairs and jumped on the bed with my other two cats. When we went in to look at him, he was bleeding from his mouth. My vet was great and met us at his office. He gave him a sedative and then sent him off across the Rainbow Bridge. I'll miss him, but I know he is out of pain and is in a happy beautiful place.

[isitfridayyet]

Very sorry to hear about your kitty Percy. Glad he's at peace now. Maybe he'll see my Miss Ellie across Rainbow Bridge.

[windykl]

there's a new interview from zap2it with robert singer..he talks about bobby, s8 and cas' return..here's the parts about that

When we spoke with Sera Gamble this week, she wouldn't breathe a word about Collins' three-episode arc, which begins with episode 317. Singer had a bit more to say now that the script is finished. "When they run across Castiel, it's a very different kind of Castiel. Dean has a bit of a moral dilemma in regard to Castiel in that first episode," he reveals. "Dean does some soul searching."

Fans felt that they were left out to dry when Castiel "died" at the beginning of the season, but Singer promises a more satisfying conclusion this time. "It will feel like some sort of closure, yes," he says. "Not in the first episode back, of course, but by the third, absolutely."

i'm not sure what that means? will cas be forgiven? what do ya'll think?

[lucifan]

Recap Episode 7.11 “Adventures in Babysitting”
(Original Title: Kick Dick: Volume 1)


Chapter 1: Sown are the Seeds of Revenge

Sam’s sad puppy face looks at Dean. He wants to put his wet muzzle against his bro’s neck, but Dean’s dead inside stare keeps him away. While Sam is not looking, Dean glances at him. His expression seems to say “This is all I’m left with?”.

This goes on for weeks

“Bobby. . .” Sam presses his boo-boo

“Bobbay. . .” Dean hugs trenchie

“Bob-by. . .” Sam rests his head on Satan’s shoulder

“Bobbah. . .” Dean blows his nose in trenchie

“Bo-wait a minute. How come you didn’t do any of this mourning stuff for me when I died and went to Lucifer’s cage to be tormented for all eternity?”

“. . . Uuuuh, hey, I know! Let’s try to figure out what those numbers Bobbay gave us mean. . .”


Chapter 2: The Flower of Revenge Blooms.

“I can’t figure out what these numbers Bobbay gave us mean!”

“Calm down, Dean.”

“Sammay, Bobbay died so that we could start doing things on our own again, like how we used to a very, very, very long time ago. With no help from anyone. With no one figuring stuff out for us. . .That’s it!” Dean snaps his fingers.

“What, Dean? Did you figure out what those numbers mean?”

“No, I just remembered that crazy Frank guy Bobbay introduced us to awhile ago. He can figure stuff out and tell us what to do!”

“. . .”

“Yep, then we can have an 80’s metal montage where we do splits on chairs, cover every inch of our body with weapons, and set booby traps all over the showdown place. . . For Bobbay!!”

“For Bob-oh wait his phone’s ringing.. . .hmmmm. . . sounds like some little girl needs help. I guess I’m going to have to sit out this whole avenging Bobby/stopping the Leviathans from global domination thing.“

“Sure Sammy, the only person I have left in this world, go into unknown danger all by yourself with Leviathans swarming all over the place to take care of the priority equivalent of rescuing a cat from a tree. I’ll just drink this beer and wait for Frank to figure things out for us. . . Hey! You drank all my beer!”

“It wasn’t me. . . maybe Satan did it.”

“Just go.”


Chapter 3: Revenge’s Hammer.

“So new Bobbay, what have you got for me?”

“I’m not new Bobby! In fact, don’t even consider me a supporting character. I know what happens to them on this show.”

“Nice try Frank, but you’re gonna die eventually. And you’re not gonna even get a cool heroic death like Bobbay or Ellen and Jo. It’s gonna be more like that offscreen death that Ash got.”

“Would you stop!”


“Everyone dies! Even me and Sam died. Even the Impala kind of died. You’re gonna diiiiieeeeeee!”

“You know you are very unprofessional. Why can’t you be more like me?”

“You mean, living in one of those paranoid people trailers, pointing guns at everyone who comes near you, and having a very offputting, cranky disposition?”

“No, I mean I always keep it professional. I always have a smile on my face.”

“Dude, I have never seen you with a smile on your face. Unless you consider a sarcastic grimace a smile.”


Frank tells Dean that the numbers that Bobby gave him are actually coordinates to a field in Wisconsin. It is believed to be the place where the Leviathans will build their secret weapon: The cheese wheel of death!

Frank and Dean, dressed as telephone repairmen, head over there to get their spy on.

“Ok, it’s go time! For Bobbay!”

Dean spends about an hour trying to figure out how to operate the lift to get him to the top of the telephone pole.

“Oh no! Dean they have surveillance cameras everywhere!”

“Quick let’s get out of here!”

Dean spends another hour trying to get back down.


Chapter 4: Revenge takes a coffee break.

Frank and Dean decide to get their spy on much, much farther away. And by spy on, I mean, Frank spies on a couple making out in their car while Dean sleeps for almost two days straight sitting up.

Dean checks his voicemail:

“Hi Deanie, looks like I’m dealing with snaky monsters called Vetalas. . . slow eaters, loners, gank em with a silver knife. . .call me, I could use your help. I don’t know why, I just told you everything there is to know about them.”

“Oh crap!”

Dean can’t reach Sam, but gets a call from Chrissy instead. She tells him that Sam hasn’t returned in days. Whatever could have gone wrong? Dean heads over to her house. She knows where Sam was heading, but she insists that Dean take her with him.

“You don’t want to come with me kid. Everyone always ends up dead.”

“They wouldn’t kill off a cute little kid like me. . .would they?”

“Are you kidding me? This show would kill off a basket full of puppies that Sam got me for Christmas.”

“gulp. . .Well I have to go with you anyway because you need someone to be with you so you can explain how Sam, one of the saviors of mankind, got so easily duped by some silly monster of the week.”

“See Sam thought they were loners when they actually work in pairs.”

“Why did he think that?”

“Because it says so in our father’s journal. It seems the one Vetala he faced was a hermity antisocial Vetala. But I had faced a pair of em while Sammy was in college.”

“So like you never thought to put a little asterisk in his journal that says Vetalas in fact work in pairs? I mean don’t you think you should have your own damn journal by now, dumbass?”

“What can I tell you? There are many an episode that could have never been possible without my stupidity.”

Dean and Chrissy arrive at the restaurant where all the victims had gone before they disappeared. While Dean gets distracted by the prostitute lady who is luring some guy behind a truck, Chrissy notices a waitress come out of the restaurant, get into the drivers seat of the truck and drive away with prostitute lady and the dude suddenly gone.

“Wow Dean how could you not notice that?”

“I’m tired, ok. I’m just tired. Ouch!”

“What happened?”

“Something just slapped me in the back of the head!”

Dean looks behind him, but doesn’t see anything.

“That’s weird.”

“What a dweeb.”

They follow the truck to the ol’ abandoned warehouse. Dean handcuffs Chrissy to the steering wheel to keep her from coming with him. Inside, Dean gets into a brawl with snaketress and is about to gank her when Chrissy suddenly shows up and gets grabbed by hookobra. Dean, acting like it’s his first rodeo, drops his knife, pretty much dooming everyone to a slow death. Luckily Chrissy's hiding a shank of her own and sneaky stabs hobra. She frees Sam who takes care of the other one.

“Wow that was a pretty embarrassing outing for you guys. Good thing I was there to save you.”

“Yep, I will totally ignore the fact that you running in there and letting yourself get caught kind of messed the whole thing up in the first place. It’s just the kind of stupid we are looking for in fact. How would you like to be a supporting character on Supernatural? I’m sure they will give you a really cool death since you are a kid and all.”

“Gggyeah, I think I’m just gonna go to college instead.”


Chapter 5: Revenge gets back to work.


In the Impala. . .

“You know we kind of sucked hard at the whole getting revenge for Bobby thing.”

“Don’t worry Sammy. We were just loosening up. Now it is officially on!”

“I saw the preview for the next episode. It didn’t look like it was officially on there either. It’s one of those ”we’re in the 40’s just because” episodes that every show seems to have at some point even though nobody really likes them.”

“Hey Frank told me I should be more professional. So I’ve been practicing my “everything’s good” smile. What do you think?” Dean smiles at Sam.

Sam screams and jumps out of the Impala.