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Post by percysowner on Jan 4, 2012 19:19:09 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. No Sam is a bummer, I hope he gets a reasonably sized part.
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Post by geordiegirl1967 on Jan 4, 2012 19:22:27 GMT -5
No Sam is a bummer, I hope he gets a reasonably sized part. Did anyone else snigger at this in an inappropriately dirty way? Just me then (hangs head in shame). |
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 4, 2012 19:37:29 GMT -5
the little squeaks and eeps that dean makes while trying to manuever the cherry picker is freaking hilarious  what the hell is it about dean (or sam) in a uniform that is so tantalizing?  i just realized that we have no drooling/fainting smiley. why do i have a feeling that some time will have passed between the last scene from the last epi to the opening scene in this epi? could explain why the boys aren't drowning in grief. i also hope that the writers dont expect us to accept bobby's conspiracy theory friend in his place. cuz it aint gonna happen  |
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Post by cahtie on Jan 4, 2012 19:44:59 GMT -5
the little squeaks and eeps that dean makes while trying to manuever the cherry picker is freaking hilarious ![]() ![]() ![]() what the hell is it about dean (or sam) in a uniform that is so tantalizing? ![]() i just realized that we have no drooling/fainting smiley. why do i have a feeling that some time will have passed between the last scene from the last epi to the opening scene in this epi? could explain why the boys aren't drowning in grief. i also hope that the writers dont expect us to accept bobby's conspiracy theory friend in his place. cuz it aint gonna happen ![]() I agree.. I've been worried about this episode for a while now, and this scene didn't comfort me. I want to see Dean and Sam grieving over bobby, and not just hunky doory about it like Sam is with his hellovision! How can they kill off, or mortally injure, a vital character to the show, and then have things be peachy keen the next episode? And.. This guy has nothing on Bobby. He better not be his 'replacement'. Honestly, wasn't impressed with him in the first place, and not impressed with him now. I want Bobby.   |
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Post by chloekins on Jan 4, 2012 20:25:36 GMT -5
So what was the point of sidelining Bobby if they're just going to replace him with Frank? His name is Frank I think, am I right? I thought the point of sidelining Bobby was to remove him as a support for Sam and Dean.
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Post by benson35 on Jan 4, 2012 20:33:25 GMT -5
Right..so right...o.k. we have Dean with some random (Frank), hunting..  I just give up, really these are the things they tend to move on with. I'm not worrying about Bobby grieving as much beause they never really grieve like they would for each other but what I was waiting for was them caring for each other. Maybe a talk here and there. Maybe a talk about Sam not loosing it, coming to Dean. Dean noticing his hands or something. And maybe a talk about Bobby between the two. We've got everything that makes this show just a show not something special and relatable and the boys story in the forefront....we've got Dean hunting and feeling jolly and we have him with some random and we have him NOT with his brother. Great...I mean great! |
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Post by chloekins on Jan 5, 2012 5:09:05 GMT -5
Right..so right...o.k. we have Dean with some random (Frank), hunting.. I just give up, really these are the things they tend to move on with. I'm not worrying about Bobby grieving as much beause they never really grieve like they would for each other but what I was waiting for was them caring for each other. Maybe a talk here and there. Maybe a talk about Sam not loosing it, coming to Dean. Dean noticing his hands or something. And maybe a talk about Bobby between the two. We've got everything that makes this show just a show not something special and relatable and the boys story in the forefront....we've got Dean hunting and feeling jolly and we have him with some random and we have him NOT with his brother. Great...I mean great! The guy in the clip is Frank Deveraux (I had to look that up). He was in Slash Fiction, the wierdo friend of Bobby's who told them to ditch the car and their credit cards in order to hide from the Levis. I love Kevin McNally but no way do I want him replacing Bobby in helping the guys with research and stuff. Again, why sideline Bobby if they're just replacing him with Frank? And me too in wanting to see some talking between Sam and Dean and then opening up to each other about their feelings about Bobby, about what Sam is going through with his delusions, and whatever is bugging Dean. Wasn't there going to be a big secret that was going to devastate Sam? I'm already upset that once again we have the guys separated at the worst possible time. What is wrong with them anyway? And now a lighthearted episode right after Bobby maybe dying but probably being in a coma or with amnesia or whatever??? This season it's like the writers are really lazy. They teased us as the beginning saying the season would have a Butch and Sundance aura implying Sam and Dean would be desperate and running for their lives and so far that hasn't appeared. So far the writers have not given us any meaningful scenes between Sam and Dean where they each try to help the other deal with their problems other than the great warehouse scene and the apology scene about Amy. So far this season is proving to be a mixed up mess. The only bright spots are Dick and Crowley who we haven't seen enough of. |
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Post by Rose on Jan 5, 2012 9:06:10 GMT -5
I with you, chloekins, on the disappointment of it all. Are they seriously going to replace Bobby with Frank? I mean if this is the case than this honestly pisses me off, because Frank is just another random character. Bobby's been there since the beginning and he's like a father to the boys... none of this makes any sense to me. The clip was cute, but what was the purpose? A 1 second phone call with Sam? I mean, there's no Sam, but Dean wigging out in a cherry picker while Frank yells orders to him? What was even in the point in showing us a clip like this after such a devastating episode for the mid-season finale? Separating Sam and Dean. No talks. No word on Bobby. A bunch of light-hearted comedy junk? Since when did this show stop being about the brothers? It just keeps disappointing me more and more this season... and I had such high hopes. I never should have. |
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Post by geordiegirl1967 on Jan 5, 2012 11:00:47 GMT -5
I can't agree with you guys (cloekins and rqr) about s7. I have loved it as much as any period from all 7 seasons of the show. DYL and GND were the only misses for me.
I do share some of your concerns about the frustrating lack of brotherly moments. But it isn't just that. It is that there have been so many great opportunities to have these that would have fallen naturally out of the story this season, yet it feels like the writers are deliberately avoiding them, like they are toying with us.
That said I am not negative about it like you guys seem to be. It has been way better (for me) than early s6, early s5 and all of s4. I am really enjoying it.
I agree that if what this clip implies might happen (Dean and Sam not working together, Frank replacing Bobby, no proper grieving etc) does happen then that will suck. But I don't think we should be getting down on the ep in advance. We all know how misleading these damned things can be. I am just going to reserve judgement until I have seen it.
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Post by sarahg6 on Jan 5, 2012 11:21:49 GMT -5
So what was the point of sidelining Bobby if they're just going to replace him with Frank? His name is Frank I think, am I right? I thought the point of sidelining Bobby was to remove him as a support for Sam and Dean. Awe, and I was just happy to see the pirate back and not being so over the top dingy! The preview I saw on chch was mostly Sam getting chewed by Vamps. It doesn't even look like AIB's other previews. Hope its better than it looks to be. |
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Post by isitfridayyet on Jan 5, 2012 11:35:20 GMT -5
I'm so confused. It's like the whole thing with Bobby didn't happen.
Didn't Dean say he'd drive him and Sam off a bridge if something happened to Bobby? I seriously doubt his attitude changed enough to where he'd be out working a job with Frank instead of boozing.
I just have this funny feeling that Bobby is fine..just recovering.
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 5, 2012 14:52:43 GMT -5
Just saw the sneak peek and...I'm confused.
WHAT are they doing with Frank?
What's Sam doing?
How does this play into Sammy gettting kidnapped, by those...whatever the hell they were...vampires.
Where and when's the little girl we saw in the trailer come into play?
and most importantly...
WHY IS THERE NOTHING ABOUT BOBBY IN ANY OF THIS?! No emotional Dean or anything.
Plus, it did look like Jensen wasn't full hearted into those lines.
When he said "Costumes...what?" that part looked more like an outtake.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 5, 2012 15:56:59 GMT -5
from the feel of the clip, i think a bit of time has passed between the last scene with bobby to the opening scene for 'aib'. i'm hoping that bobby is either in a coma,has amnesia or is recovering under sherriff mills care. i don't want the writers to have killed off bobby, show the boys giving him a hunters funeral, then just moving on like nothing happened. after john died, we were shown over a period of time, the boys dealing with it in their own ways. even tho john was their father, i am of the opinion that losing bobby would hit them even harder because of what he means to them. i'm already not a big fan of our current show runner and a few of the writers. i've tried to be open minded and give them a fair shot. if they do kill off bobby and have the boys cremate him then just move on, i'll be the first in line calling for a few writer firings, starting with sg. she may be a good writer but, in my opinion, she's a lousy show runner. |
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 17:02:44 GMT -5
from the feel of the clip, i think a bit of time has passed between the last scene with bobby to the opening scene for 'aib'. i'm hoping that bobby is either in a coma,has amnesia or is recovering under sherriff mills care. i don't want the writers to have killed off bobby, show the boys giving him a hunters funeral, then just moving on like nothing happened. after john died, we were shown over a period of time, the boys dealing with it in their own ways. even tho john was their father, i am of the opinion that losing bobby would hit them even harder because of what he means to them. i'm already not a big fan of our current show runner and a few of the writers. i've tried to be open minded and give them a fair shot. if they do kill off bobby and have the boys cremate him then just move on, i'll be the first in line calling for a few writer firings, starting with sg. she may be a good writer but, in my opinion, she's a lousy show runner. ![]() Thats my major peeve, why is their time thats past. Why aren't the boys feelings and angst and bond not enough to actually want to see and feel for this show. I don't get the 'move on' attitude. Even if he's not dead, what does it matter. Why choose this clip as cute as it was the one they chose to advertise after such an emotional episode. |
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Post by chloekins on Jan 5, 2012 17:35:45 GMT -5
from the feel of the clip, i think a bit of time has passed between the last scene with bobby to the opening scene for 'aib'. i'm hoping that bobby is either in a coma,has amnesia or is recovering under sherriff mills care. i don't want the writers to have killed off bobby, show the boys giving him a hunters funeral, then just moving on like nothing happened. after john died, we were shown over a period of time, the boys dealing with it in their own ways. even tho john was their father, i am of the opinion that losing bobby would hit them even harder because of what he means to them. i'm already not a big fan of our current show runner and a few of the writers. i've tried to be open minded and give them a fair shot. if they do kill off bobby and have the boys cremate him then just move on, i'll be the first in line calling for a few writer firings, starting with sg. she may be a good writer but, in my opinion, she's a lousy show runner. ![]() Thats my major peeve, why is their time thats past. Why aren't the boys feelings and angst and bond not enough to actually want to see and feel for this show. I don't get the 'move on' attitude. Even if he's not dead, what does it matter. Why choose this clip as cute as it was the one they chose to advertise after such an emotional episode. It looks like to me that they are avoiding showing the guys actually dealing with emotional situations. God forbid we should see them having a bedside scene where they know what the final diagnosis is for Bobby. We did get to see a lot of emotion in DD but it was all done separately and silently. Dean looking angry and frustrated and then leaving to flail at Dick and Sam sitting around rubbing his hand and giving soulful sad expressions. They didn't really talk to each other and express their fear for Bobby. And of course we've never had any conversations between Sam and Dean about how Sam is dealing. Just Dean being mad at Sam for keeping things to himself. Why should Sam say anything when Dean is mad no matter what Sam does? Sam's the only one who tries to talk to Dean but of course he gets rebuffed. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's what we've seen since season 2 when John died, the same stuff. Dean represses and Sam is just frustrated and feels guilty. If the writers don't want to deal with emotional situations why put Sam and Dean into them? I want to just beat these guys over the heads sometimes. |
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 5, 2012 17:38:08 GMT -5
Thats my major peeve, why is their time thats past. Why aren't the boys feelings and angst and bond not enough to actually want to see and feel for this show. I don't get the 'move on' attitude. Even if he's not dead, what does it matter. Why choose this clip as cute as it was the one they chose to advertise after such an emotional episode. I know why they chose this clip, it is specific BECAUSE it shows nothing important. They didn't want to give anything away.  |
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 17:43:30 GMT -5
Thats my major peeve, why is their time thats past. Why aren't the boys feelings and angst and bond not enough to actually want to see and feel for this show. I don't get the 'move on' attitude. Even if he's not dead, what does it matter. Why choose this clip as cute as it was the one they chose to advertise after such an emotional episode. I know but a clip is major advertising not only for the show but for the up coming episode. Sometimes newbies need something to watch, to get invested in and the emotion of the boys for this could of brought them in not to mention the original fans. We know the boys, we know he story and we get this for our trouble just so they don't give away that the boys would be upset. I know why they chose this clip, it is specific BECAUSE it shows nothing important. They didn't want to give anything away. |
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 5, 2012 18:00:19 GMT -5
I know why they chose this clip, it is specific BECAUSE it shows nothing important. They didn't want to give anything away. I know but a clip is major advertising not only for the show but for the up coming episode. Sometimes newbies need something to watch, to get invested in and the emotion of the boys for this could of brought them in not to mention the original fans. We know the boys, we know the story and we get this for our trouble just so they don't give away that the boys would be upset. Yeah, I hear you about the whole advertising aspect but we kind of got that with the preview that showed a bit of the next episode and of the time travel episode and we got bits and pieces there, plus we got the CW trailer for the next episode and the CHCH trailer. I mean, after all those little tiny sneak pieces, I'd be willing to bet that they didn't have much from the next episode that they could actually show us without giving stuff away, so they gave us the most non-informative clip they could dig up, because they knew they'd have to give us SOMETHING. |
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 18:06:27 GMT -5
I know why they chose this clip, it is specific BECAUSE it shows nothing important. They didn't want to give anything away. I know but a clip is major advertising not only for the show but for the up coming episode. Sometimes newbies need something to watch, to get invested in and the emotion of the boys for this could of brought them in not to mention the original fans. We know the boys, we know the story and we get this for our trouble just so they don't give away that the boys would be upset. Yeah, I hear you about the whole advertising aspect but we kind of got that with the preview that showed a bit of the next episode and of the time travel episode and we got bits and pieces there, plus we got the CW trailer for the next episode and the CHCH trailer. I mean, after all those little tiny sneak pieces, I'd be willing to bet that they didn't have much from the next episode that they could actually show us without giving stuff away, so they gave us the most non-informative clip they could dig up, because they knew they'd have to give us SOMETHING. I think I'd rather be in denial a while longer that the show would actually not spend a whole episode with I don't know...allowing the boys a pov a perspective and grief. Or even be together. I think the best advertising would of been to actually show a scene...one of what I would think would be many in the episode. |
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 5, 2012 18:28:37 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a lot of emotionally charged moments in this episode about whatever has happened to Bobby, whatever the outcome.
But if we were given anything with the brother TOGETHER, then the scene would probably be giving away the big cliffhanger.
I know we all want to know, one way or the other, but that's their pull, they can't give anything we could interpret.
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 18:34:07 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a lot of emotionally charged moments in this episode about whatever has happened to Bobby, whatever the outcome. But if we were given anything with the brother TOGETHER, then the scene would probably be giving away the big cliffhanger. I know we all want to know, one way or the other, but that's their pull, they can't give anything we could interpret. It just puzzles me when they have this perfect opportunity to open a few doors and release a few tensions. Sams hand, Deans drinking, their relationship, the leviathens now their on their own. And just the boys POV. Kinda like Bobby got last episode and Castiel even got last season. A reason why episode, an episode to open doors, start discussion. And this could have some discussions but it would of meant a whole lot more discussion if they gave us a clip like that a minute out of 40 minutes of episode imo. I just hope it isn't a discussion over the hood or interrupted by a phone call. |
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 5, 2012 18:49:20 GMT -5
I THINK THEY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH A CLIP THAT WOULD DRAW US IN EMOTIONALLY, WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY. THEY'RE MASTERS AT GIVING US JUST ENOUGH IN A CLIP TO DRIVE US ALL UP A WALL. MOST OF THE MONTAGE OF CLIPS WE WERE SHOWN, SHOWED MORE FROM THE TIME TRAVEL EPI THEN 'AIB'. WHAT WE GOT FROM THE 'AIB' CLIPS WERE: WEIRD LOOKING FEMALE FELINE LOOKING MONSTERS BARING THEIR FANGS, HOLDING SAM DOWN AND BITING HIS NECK,AND DEAN SITTING IN WHAT LOOKS TO BE THE IMPALA. LATER CLIPS SHOWED DEAN TALKING TO THE YOUNG GIRL ABOUT RESCUING SAM AND HER FATHER, HIM SITTING IN THE IMPALA WITH THE GIRL, AND DEAN WITH FRANK AND THE CHERRY PICKER TRUCK. THEY COULD HAVE JUST AS EASILY SHOWN A CLIP OF THE BOYS JUST LOOKING AT EACH OTHER IN A NONDESCRIPT LOCATION, WITH ONE OF THEM MENTIONING BOBBY WITHOUT GIVING AWAY WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. I WOULD HAVE MUCH RATHER HAVE HAD A CLIP LIKE THAT, THEN ALL THE OTHER CLIPS COMBINED. ON A SIDE NOTE, DEAN DRESSED LIKE ELLIOT NESS :heart: :heart:
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 18:53:10 GMT -5
Its like they have all this ingredient to make an award winning eppy, one to remember to watch over and over and hey....nah.....this show is more about what other characters think and feel about what they're going through apparently.
They did it better before the angels. They gave the angels more talk than they let the boys the last few years. Sad really.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 5, 2012 18:59:22 GMT -5
i actually liked the angels. ok, i liked seeing zac,uriel and raph bite it  i do still like gabe, cas, joshua and michael tho.  i do agree that the angels (and the demons to a point) had way too many spoken parts. those parts would have been better served being given to the actual main characters of the show  |
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 5, 2012 19:02:00 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a lot of emotionally charged moments in this episode about whatever has happened to Bobby, whatever the outcome. But if we were given anything with the brother TOGETHER, then the scene would probably be giving away the big cliffhanger. I know we all want to know, one way or the other, but that's their pull, they can't give anything we could interpret. It just puzzles me when they have this perfect opportunity to open a few doors and release a few tensions. Sams hand, Deans drinking, their relationship, the leviathens now their on their own. And just the boys POV. Kinda like Bobby got last episode and Castiel even got last season. A reason why episode, an episode to open doors, start discussion. And this could have some discussions but it would of meant a whole lot more discussion if they gave us a clip like that a minute out of 40 minutes of episode imo. I just hope it isn't a discussion over the hood or interrupted by a phone call. Yeah, I feel ya. A brother's POV episode would be nice, but storyline writers like to let them unravel over a few episode, especially because they're the main characters. Secondaries tend to get individual episodes because alot of stuff about them has to be unloaded all at once, and secondaries don't usually get the opportunity to stretch the stuff over several episode, OR there's a rush to drop a plot point REALLY quickly so they stuff it into one episode. |
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 5, 2012 19:04:10 GMT -5
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Post by benson35 on Jan 5, 2012 19:08:31 GMT -5
It just puzzles me when they have this perfect opportunity to open a few doors and release a few tensions. Sams hand, Deans drinking, their relationship, the leviathens now their on their own. And just the boys POV. Kinda like Bobby got last episode and Castiel even got last season. A reason why episode, an episode to open doors, start discussion. And this could have some discussions but it would of meant a whole lot more discussion if they gave us a clip like that a minute out of 40 minutes of episode imo. I just hope it isn't a discussion over the hood or interrupted by a phone call. Yeah, I feel ya. A brother's POV episode would be nice, but storyline writers like to let them unravel over a few episode, especially because they're the main characters. Secondaries tend to get individual episodes because alot of stuff about them has to be unloaded all at once, and secondaries don't usually get the opportunity to stretch the stuff over several episode, OR there's a rush to drop a plot point REALLY quickly so they stuff it into one episode. Yea you could be right there. And I'd be good with that but this shouldn't of been one of those episodes...it should of been THE episode you know? To set up the rest of the season even. Drop little hints. Give that caring and sharing. The thing about brothers is that there is always stuff to fight/laugh and talk about. I'd love to see a planning episode....what the heck are they doing now episode. hmmm we'll see how this one pans out. I just always thought they picked their DC's so well, careful to give us that little bit of info to keep us coming back... This was Dean cuteness of course but not the stuff that had me thinking about it, watching it and wondering what is going to happen next. |
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Post by SoCal on Jan 5, 2012 20:58:05 GMT -5
Hey, over at SupernaturalTV.com there's a new clip from AIB. Looks good. And that weirdo hunter that Bobby sent the boys to (to get rid of their old computer/ID's, etc) is in it. Looks like a good one. I can hardly wait!
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Post by geordiegirl1967 on Jan 6, 2012 5:10:57 GMT -5
Hey, over at SupernaturalTV.com there's a new clip from AIB. Looks good. And that weirdo hunter that Bobby sent the boys to (to get rid of their old computer/ID's, etc) is in it. Looks like a good one. I can hardly wait! You mean a different clip to the one we are discussing in this thread? |
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I just give up, really these are the things they tend to move on with. I'm not worrying about Bobby grieving as much beause they never really grieve like they would for each other but what I was waiting for was them caring for each other. Maybe a talk here and there. 
