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Post by SoCal on Oct 28, 2013 12:47:18 GMT -5
The boys visit Oz. And not the down under place either, but somewhere in the MOL hideout. This could be pretty good or a massive waste of viewing time. Oh, yeah, plus, Charlie is back.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 28, 2013 18:22:41 GMT -5
Those clips seem unrelated, but there will be a jumped shark in there somewhere. Becky Winchester
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Post by SoCal on Oct 28, 2013 20:09:10 GMT -5
Those clips seem unrelated, but there will be a jumped shark in there somewhere. Becky Winchester I don't mind them referencing Becky.......but DO NOT bring her back.
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Post by novemberschild on Oct 28, 2013 20:16:06 GMT -5
I agree, No Becky!
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 29, 2013 13:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I have had enough of Becky too. I did think her first scene with Sam and Dean was hilarious though because of the way she could not stop touching Sam. I did not plan on them getting married. Yikes!
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 29, 2013 14:03:02 GMT -5
Supernatural does love its fans. I can see that the first line says "This is for the SPN family" but I cannot read the rest of it.
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Post by novemberschild on Oct 29, 2013 19:15:46 GMT -5
Anti, It says- This is for the SPN Family whose dedication and love drive us to continue creating this wonderful world. Keeping up the Family Business.
I couldn't read it either, I had to get it from somewhere else.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 29, 2013 21:51:57 GMT -5
Thank you November. That is a nice message.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 29, 2013 22:06:39 GMT -5
I give it a 3 because it is a fun episode. Charlie was really brave and smart so she and Dorothy should make a good team. Wow…Dorothy certainly was different from the movie that I saw. When Charlie pushed the witch through the door, I was surprised she had the courage to open the door again. Sweet Sam wants to help Cas by tracking angels and alerting him. I thought Dean would tell him that Cas left on his own and that it would not seem logical to Sam. I do not think Sam is going to accept Dean’s explanation for calling out “Zeke”. Dean was in a desperate situation at the time so I understand why he had to blow Zeke’s cover. The wicked witch was definitely wicked and kudos to Crowley for detouring her. When Crowley said he needed to air out and Dean shot a hole in him for ventilation, I almost keeled over with laughter. Crowley can certainly schmooze…addressing the witch as “Hello lovely”. Must give a shout out to that garage. Nice! I’ll probably have more comments after I watch it again tomorrow.
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Post by SoCal on Oct 30, 2013 15:31:17 GMT -5
I gave it a 3. It was cute. I missed the first 8 minutes.....hope they weren't crucial. But maybe they were since nothing was said about having Castiel leave the MOL cavern.
So Dean calls in Charlie to deal with an old computer. He is so smart.
What was that bottle fluid that was so interestingly placed where it could have fallen at almost any time? Was that something that Dorothy mixed up to keep the WW trapped? Why was she caught in the goo? Was the witch trapped there too? Gosh, couldn't the old MOL's find a better place to put them so they would never get out?
So now Supernatural has introduced actual "fairylands." There's really some parallel universe called Oz? What is it? How did it come to be? What's there? How will Charlie get back to the real world again?
Nice how the writers made Dorothy, the witch and the Oz storybooks a real part of the MOL world. So Dorothy's name is Dorothy Baum, daughter of the man who wrote the Oz books? Interesting take.
Once again Samzekiel makes an appearance to save one of the good guys. This has already gotten old. And Dean chose to save Charlie and not have him "help out with the witch." And Sam heard Dean call out, "Zeke!" Dean brushed it off, but we all know Sam won't forget this. It's just another little bit of evidence that will be packed away until Sam finds out he's possessed by an angel.
Wonder if the boys will drive some of the old cars and give Baby a rest?
What was the big deal with Dean calling the MOL's cavern a home and Sam so determined that it was just a place to work? They seemed to reiterate that several times. Hope that wasn't just to lead up to Sam saying, "There's no place like home" at the end of the episode.
Loved Dean "ventilating" Crowley. What was Crowley's deal with the witch? We all know he wouldn't have given her anything, even a bit of wrong information, without getting something from her in return.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 30, 2013 20:49:35 GMT -5
As we anticipated, Dean told Sam that Cas left so that he would not bring the angels down on them. Sam was puzzled and said the bunker is the safest place for Cas. Yeah, we know that, don't we Zeke? I hope they drive one of the classic cars just for fun; I did not get a real good look at them though. I wondered about the "it is not home to me" comments, but Sam has acted that way from the beginning. I remember he chided Dean for being so excited and decorating his room. Dorothy had done some sort of mind-meld spell which trapped both the witch and herself in the jar. I did not really understand that. Crowley is still one of my favorites. He told the witch he is a big fan and loved her work. Then he asked her what was the matter, did the cowardly lion get her tongue. Oh...must give them credit for giving Crowley a crayon to write with. They are learning to be more careful with him. They certainly used some re-imagination for this one.
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Post by novemberschild on Nov 1, 2013 16:09:54 GMT -5
I am not sure how to rate this episode, it is between a 2 and 3 for me, but I did like it better than 9.03. I liked seeing the little bit of continuity from last episode into this one about Cas, just a small mention and that was all that was needed to hold us over till the next time we see him. I thought this was an OK episode, I like Charlie, but I am a little over her being the smartest one ever, Kevin is no slouch when it comes to brains and Sam and Dean haven't survived all this time by being dumb. I do like the fact that the guys are a little "softer" when she is around, they both seem to have a lot of affection for her and it comes thru, I like to see the "slightly" softer side of the guys. I like seeing different sides of the guys, Dean has always been protective of Sam and he is that way with Charlie also. I thought the mention of Becky was great, it was funny to see Sam get flustered and change the subject. I thought Dorothy and the wicked witch were OK, but Crowley was so good! When the boys went to see him and he was whistling Over the Rainbow, , and when they asked what the witch said and he hissed , I laugh out loud every time I see that. I fully expect to see Charlie again so I am not worried about her being gone forever. One of the most emotional points for me was when Charlie died and Dean was frantic, grieving and vulnerable. He was willing to do what ever or use whatever he needed to save Charlie, and when he did that something clicked for me. Dean has lost so many friends and family members and carries so much guilt inside that he has now become someone who will do anything to save his little "family" Sam, Kevin, Charlie, and Cas, I don't know how Dean will go on if he loses any of his core group of family, he is maturing and as he gets older, he value his family more than ever. I think having a real home base may have helped solidify his sense of family. I am not saying that John, Mary, and Bobby were not family and didn't mean anything to him, they did but they are gone now and sometimes you have to make your own family. I may not have explained that right, but I just feel that Dean has a home now and that is something he needed, and Sam too, even if he doesn't realize it yet. Time is winding down on how much longer Dean can call on Zeke to help, and Sam is starting to get suspicious, that is not going to end well. I did find a little of the dialogue a little hokey and cheesy and I didn't care for possessed Sam and Dean. I thought it was just silly. There was a small moment at the end when the guys are telling Charlie goodbye and Dean just kind of shakes his head and Sam is standing to the side and gives him an odd look, I am not sure if it was an amused look, or if he was concerned about Dean, I just found it odd.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 1, 2013 17:46:01 GMT -5
November, I think I see what you mean, but I had to go back and look at the final scene with Charlie and Dorothy again. I think Dean was troubled and could not make himself look happy at Charlie's departure. Sam did give Dean a "what's up with you man?" look. I think you could give it a 3; after all, they did make you laugh. I also loved Crowley's whistling and the hiss. He is too funny. In all the excitement, Charlie forgot to drag Dean off to the side and demand some answers about her "death".
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Post by novemberschild on Nov 1, 2013 19:11:34 GMT -5
I forgot something else I noticed, When Zeke healed Cas last week, we saw the white light appear, but when Zeke healed Charlie, he only used the 2 fingers and there was no bright light. Was that because Cas is still an angel vessel?
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