TWD 4.04 "Indifference" Poll and Discussion

[SoCal]

So, Rick and Carol are supply hunting together. Guess he hasn't turned her in for killing Tyreese's girlfriend. And Tyreese, Daryl and Michonne are out together, too. What's going to happen this week? Watch and discuss after the episode.

[AntiArbitrator]

I did not see that coming! Rick made a decision, but what a decision! He does not trust her to be around his children…wow! I guess the title of the episode refers to Carol's indifference about what she did.

Carol was making major decisions and even overriding Rick’s opinion in front of the unfortunate couple that they met. Then Carol made the decision that they had waited long enough for the guy.

Everyone is going to be upset when Rick returns without Carol, but I want to see Daryl’s reaction. Will he leave to try to find her?

I think Carol made a good case for why she killed the people, but there will be people who are on her side and people who will be against what she did. That will divide the camp.

This episode gave us a deeper look into several characters’ development. Tyreese was acting so strange that I was beginning to think he was a real danger to the team. He did seem to come to his senses after the conversation with Michonne. Tyreese cleared up my confusion over Sasha; she is his sister.

I think there is something developing between Michonne and Daryl.

When soldier Bob made a threatening move, I loved the way Darryl reacted and got right in his grill.

This was an exciting episode.

[SoCal]

OK, I now hate Rick. He's decided that Carol has become a danger to the little prison community. Either Tyreese will kill her when he finds out....only if Rick tells him, or the she just can't be trusted around Rick's kids. Take your pick.

What a jerk. When he checked out after Lori's death, Carol was one of the ones that kept the group together. Wasn't Rick feeling guilty about losing Sophia in the woods when she went missing? No one threw himout. Whe he became the "Ricktator" before they found the prison, no one threw him out. When his kid, Carl, shot the boy Herschel said was surrendering, and Carl told his dad he "couldn't take the risk," no one threw him or his kids out.

Carol had done a lot for the group, including saving Herschel after his leg was cut off. She helped out with medical care and helped with the zombies at the gate. She did everything.

At the time she killed Karen and David, they were the only ones sick and after seeing the hog die, she thought she would get rid of them before they died and turned. Okay, maybe she was a little quick on the trigger, but would Rick have done the same? He was quick to kill the men in the bar when he went to find Herschel and he was determined to hang that kid they caught there.

I hope Carol comes back. And I hope Darryl whips the snot out of Rick for sending her away.

Bob sure was luck Darryl didn't head-butt him off that overhand and into the mob of zombies.

Where did the herd of 7500 zombies go? Why didn't we hear the girl scream when the zombies caught her. Where did the boy go?

Oh and by the way, I now hate Rick.

It gets a 3 because I hated the ending.

[AntiArbitrator]

SoCal, I feel your pain. When Rick was driving down the road at the end, he kept looking in the rear view mirror. I thought he was going to turn around and go back for Carol. I kept hoping he would have a change of heart, but he did not.

I think Rick should have kept it secret that he knew who killed the people. And I think Carol should show up at the prison and take her chances with the group.

I remember when Hershel wanted to throw them off of his land and Rick refused to go because it was so dangerous out there. Isn't it more dangerous now, especially for a lone woman?

That poor young girl was so sweet. Rick gave her a gun and she did not even have a chance to fire it.

I wonder if that herd is headed for the prison too. Daryl needs to get back and warn the group.

[SoCal]

AA

I thought Rick was looking in his rearview to see if Carol was following him back to the prison.

I hope since she left first, she beats him there. I don't think anyone would let Tyreese kill Carol. From what I saw of him during last night's episode, Tyreese is just teetering on the edge of madness. If he stays this way, he's toast.

I hope Carol comes back. She's a great character and so few of the originals are left. So far, none of the "newbies" characters have been explored enough for me to care about any of them.

[AntiArbitrator]

That would be sooo funny if Carol got to the prison before Rick. She said she was not worried about Tyreese so Rick really should have let her make the decision.

I thought Tyreese and Sasha would become characters we would bond with but gee, Tyreese is not looking too good and Sasha is sick. I do not think the little girls will survive and AA candidate Rob is at the bottom of the list. No other new person comes to mind.

I think I am still in shock over Rick kicking Carol out. Unbelievable.

[SoCal]

I never thought I would like to see Rick become a zombie more than after this episode.

Apparently no fan of the show was happy with how it turned out.

Since Carol left, alive, at the end of the episode, I'm sure they'll bring her back at some point. Hopefully not the way Sophia came back!

[SoCal]

Found this at the "HotAir" website. Talk about not liking how this episode ended!!!

“Walking Dead” grumble thread: Hit the road, jack
POSTED AT 7:21 PM ON NOVEMBER 4, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


And so, as happened once before with Shane, the most interesting character on the show is sent packing so that we can spend more time on Rick’s eternal struggle with the dynamics of leadership. Let me blow your mind here with an alternate ending to last night’s show: What if Carol, upon being told by King Rick that she’s now persona non grata at the castle, pulled her gun and shot him in the face? Or ran him over while she was driving away? She could have gone back to the prison, told the group that Rick had confessed to her that he’d killed Karen and the other guy, and that he’d then been devoured by a pack of zombies while heroically saving her life. Easy peasy.

When I floated this idea on Twitter, a friend tweeted back that that would be out of character for Carol; she didn’t kill Karen and whatsisname for personal gain, she did it for an honorable reason, to protect the rest of the group from the plague. Fair enough — but the whole point of last night’s episode was that the zombocalypse has changed everyone, none more so than Carol. She went from being a battered woman, paralyzed by the helplessness instilled in her by her lout of a husband, to a den mother so proactively protective of her clan that she’d murder the sick to keep them from being infectious. There’s one really obvious step left for her character to take — and the irony is, we all know she’s eventually going to take it, no doubt by joining forces with the Governor and returning to the prison at some point to do battle with the group from which she’s banished. Odds of Rick killing her while some sort of meaningful glance expressing mutual regret passes between them: 100 percent. And yes, needless to say, he’ll kill her, not vice versa. For all the praise the show gets for being willing to off its core cast, the writers apparently have decided that Rick’s just too precious a pony to be sacrificed. Meh.

One thing I really liked in last night’s episode: We never found out what happened to the blonde kid. That rarely happens on the show but it would be a wrenching fact of life in Zombieworld. People would go out to find food or fuel and they’d just … disappear. Maybe they ran away, maybe they killed themselves in despair, maybe they were injured and bleeding out somewhere, maybe they ended up as zombie chow. It would happen a lot and you’d have to get used to it. Carol has. One thing I didn’t like: What’s with the subplot about Bob the semi-recovering alcoholic? He’s barely a character; he exists, it seems, simply to give the writers a few hamhanded opportunities at depicting Tragic Flaws. Last night’s set piece with the liquor bottle was like Kirk and Spock beaming down alongside a redshirt with a coke problem. If you’re going to give a character a Tragic Flaw that nearly gets everyone killed, make sure he/she’s earned a line of credit with the audience first. As it is, I kept waiting for Daryl to push Bob off the walkway and into the crowd of zombies. Nope. Guess we’re not done with the fascinating “random guy’s drinking again” story arc yet.

[AntiArbitrator]

Must have read my mind, but expressed it a thousand times better.

SoCal, thank you very much.