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Post by AntiArbitrator on Dec 11, 2014 21:11:04 GMT -5
I Googled the title and it was taken from Friedrich Nietsche's "Beyond Good and Evil". I know the titles of episodes have meaning and I am compelled to check the origin when the quote is unfamiliar to me. I never did that prior to becoming involved with Supernatural fandom.  |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Dec 12, 2014 1:19:35 GMT -5
I was shocked during one of the episodes when Finn was talking to Clarke after the shooting of the grounders and he said "It was an accident." The shooting did not look like an accident to anyone.
After seeing the complaints on the internet about Finn saying "It was an accident", executive producer Jason Rothenberg admitted he made a mistake when he edited the scene.
"We cut a beat in that scene right before [the comment] where Finn pulled away from Raven and she fell down because she only has one good leg, but for various reasons I cut that moment. That's what he was referring to..."
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Post by KyleEl on Dec 12, 2014 14:17:11 GMT -5
I thought the young people were going to be used for their blood. I still don't know who Jaha is, but I'm glad Thelonius got out of his predicament. The scientist wanted to use the young people for their blood, but the President's original plan was to mate them so their children would hopefully be able to live on the surface. Chancellor Thelonius Jaha But he never used that name. |
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Post by KyleEl on Dec 12, 2014 14:20:24 GMT -5
Oh, and I have yet to see this week's. And after seeing the TV listings a few minutes ago, this weekend is going to be quite challenging. My hope is that at least some of the movies will air at other times.
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Post by KyleEl on Dec 16, 2014 16:58:34 GMT -5
I got through the weekend. Nothing was lost that I am aware of but I have to get through tonight. I am not out of the woods.
Sort of like the 47. Wow, that was quite an episode. I liked seeing Clarke negotiate with the leader who replaced Anya. She was certainly fair but we came that close to losing everything when Lincoln couldn't be revived. That was exciting.
I'm not clear on what happened to the girl trapped outside who was screaming for help.
At long last we heard the name Jaha. The TV listings I saw somewhere even referred to Camp Jaha. But people don't seem to want to obey him yet. I hope they're right.
I saw those "comforting" lamps in the room the kids broke into. Also one where they sleep in addition to those harsh blue lights.
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Post by KyleEl on Dec 19, 2014 16:35:03 GMT -5
Again, what an ending. I hope Finn isn't really dead but getting him out of there if he isn't is going to be quite a challenge.
I can't say I enjoyed the episode but they made it complicated and put us through a lot of ethical dilemmas.
I did enjoy the flashback. And it turns out Raven didn't need to do that after all. I still wonder what Finn did wrong. But when he asked if he was in trouble--THAT was funny and not a lot is funny on this show.
Not one scene at Mount Weather. And it was just mentioned once.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Dec 21, 2014 15:56:50 GMT -5
It was spooky seeing Clarke walking in the fog while surrounded by grounders. I saw half of the episode and I need to watch the second half. Finn was willing to accept responsibility, but his friends are not willing to let him be tortured by the grounders. Lincoln's description of what they would do to Finn was horrific. I wonder if Finn would volunteer to go to them if he had heard what Lincoln said they would do to him. I saw the part where Abby wants to suggest the sky people hold a trial for Finn but I did not see yet if she did that.
I can understand why Raven loves Finn. He was very sweet to her on the ship and made her dream of a space walk come true. I have not seen the part where he got in trouble.
I think the girl who was outside the weather station was left outside to die. The scientist wanted to determine how long it would take her to die.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Dec 21, 2014 23:26:40 GMT -5
I watched the second half of the episode. I hate for shows to kill off my favorite characters and Finn really was one of the nicest kids sent to the surface. It did look like Finn was dead at the end and I think the promo shot of his eyes flashing open might be a nightmare Clarke or someone else was having, but that is just a guess. Killing him was a mercy compared to what the grounders had in store for him, but I thought Clarke was going to slip the knife to him to use if he could not handle the torture.
Murphy caused Raven a lot of pain and grief. Even though I did not guess what she planned, it does make sense in retrospect. Maybe Raven should watch her back around Murphy from now on.
Bellamy has put his life on the line so many times for his sister and for his friends, yet he does not ask much for himself. I think he is a true hero and an excellent leader.
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During the pilot episode, I thought the grounders' vicious attack on the kids was based on pure savagery and staking claim to the land. Now that we know outsiders had been imprisoning and torturing their people for years, the warning attacks make sense. Therefore, if they can stop killing each other for a moment, maybe they can have a truce.
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Post by KyleEl on Dec 22, 2014 14:55:10 GMT -5
I had never noticed whether Finn was nice. I can't really tell the male characters apart for some reason. The girls are different because they all look different.
But I think my plan for Finn is a good one.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Dec 22, 2014 17:42:56 GMT -5
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Jan 21, 2015 19:28:36 GMT -5
2.09 Remember Me (1-21-15)
Lexa and Clarke make a deal; the newly formed alliance is threatened; Monty comes up with a plan.
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We know Raven is pissed off about Clarke killing Finn., right?
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Post by KyleEl on Jan 23, 2015 17:45:58 GMT -5
I believe there was an episode this week, but I am way behind.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Jan 23, 2015 19:42:56 GMT -5
I have not watched it yet either because so many of my favorites aired new episodes this week.
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Post by KyleEl on Jan 26, 2015 15:48:48 GMT -5
Okay ... what do I remember?
The leader of the Grounders seemed nicer than I expected. One of the other Grounders was determined to get revenge but the leader was willing to compromise. Until she was almost poisoned. I was really hoping they would be able to work together. And there is hope since they figured out who did it.
And the 47 are now in cages awaiting their fate. I did enjoy when the one guy got into that room claiming to be decontaminating.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Jan 26, 2015 15:56:11 GMT -5
I have not seen that one. I need to compare my list of shows to what was recorded and not recorded.
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Post by KyleEl on Jan 30, 2015 16:33:06 GMT -5
I was trying to remember what happened and then I realized I haven't seen it yet. Maybe tonight.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 3, 2015 16:41:03 GMT -5
Wow, that was unpleasant.
We never did get to see what was going on at Mount Weather but I guess that's coming. I saw listings in a local newspaper and what happens is described there as "brutal". Not good.
Seeing Octavia get beat up was really hard.
Somehow the leader from the ark has escaped. And now we know about his son.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 5, 2015 15:50:09 GMT -5
No time yet.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 9, 2015 17:10:34 GMT -5
I have not enjoyed the degree of violence and the inhumane actions of some of the characters. It is seldom offset by humor which would lighten the darkness. The episodes are recording but I do not know if or when I will resume watching.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 10, 2015 17:51:03 GMT -5
Well, it was pretty bad again this week. But not as bad as it has been.
Clarke defied her mother. That was pretty hard to watch. The Grounders trust Clarke.
I was mistaken about the 47 actually being in cages. They are eventually going to be used for their blood, and some have been, but most of them have been staying where they were. And there's one of those "comforting" lamps.
Bellamy was captured and hung upside down as they took his blood, but he got help from someone held prisoner next to him. Then he discovered some children going to class and one of them talked to him. It was a hard thing to see the backpack of that child which had the same last name as that of a guard whose uniform he was wearing after he killed the man.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 13, 2015 15:26:39 GMT -5
Wow.
Bellamy posed as a guard, wearing something over his face. I guess you'd call it a helmet. As they visited the place where the remaining members of the 47 are to take one away, he grabbed one and whispered that they should fight back and try to escape. He got mad when Raven said something on the radio that indicated Octavia was not safe as Clarke had assured him.
I forgot that last week President Wallace was captured and imprisoned, and replaced by his son. It's his son who cares nothing about the 47.
One kid's bone marrow was taken for someone else. You can do that and live, but I got the impression the kid didn't.
The leader of the Grounders is taking the coward's way out. Clarke wants them to fight.
Clarke's mom says she has now done something so bad she might as well disown her daughter, or something like that.
Thelonius, the guy he went with to see his son's grave, and others are crossing a desert. They enountered a girl who said she was attacked and she and her group had all her stuff stolen, and others in the group were killed. The guy likes her and after offering her water, acts like her boyfriend now that she has joined them. They are headed for the City of Light.
And these are spoilers. I forget how you do that here.
The son fired missiles at the group that includes Clarke. They're in some place called Tondici.
The remaining members of the 47 got out and 11 of the Mount Weather people, including the doctor, are dead.
The girl reunited with her group, who are actually thieves. Having lost their stuff, Thelonius and his group have to decide whether to continue toward the City of Light.
Edit: Figured it out. I remembered a technique we used on the CW site.
Edit: I can't spell.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 17, 2015 16:18:05 GMT -5
The late morning DJ on my favorite radio station said the latest winter storm is Octavia.
Have I seen an episode since I posted here?
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 17, 2015 20:09:45 GMT -5
It would be fitting if it was actually named for this Octavia as she is often stormy.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 19, 2015 17:51:03 GMT -5
No time yet.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 23, 2015 16:02:55 GMT -5
This week at least we had some good results.
Clarke's problem with her mother is the result of supporting the bombing of some location where some people were killed. Clarke's mother was able to save one of her people but it was tricky and required heavy lifting.
At Mount Weather they're still trying to go after The 47 to find a cure for those who live there.
Maya, or however her name was spelled, was put in a space suit with limited oxygen. Since she wasn't outside, I don't understand how that was a problem.
Otherwise, our heroes seem to be making progress toward getting out.
I thought they killed the black woman who is sort of the second in command of the Grounders, but she recovered.
We didn't hear from Thelonius.
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Post by KyleEl on Feb 27, 2015 16:41:49 GMT -5
I don't know whether to label some of these as spoilers.
Just assume they are after I say someone at Mount Weather has referred to "The 44". That means at least three are deceased.
I don't know why the acid fog blew up before our heroes were put in danger, but it's good that it did. I feel bad for those who were there. I was so happy Bellamy was able to get to the place and apparetnly sabotage it. Wow, a pH of 0 must really be bad.
Octavia seems to be following the black woman rather than Clarke. The white girl who is the leader doesn't trust her. And why, if both of them are so pretty, do they have that makeup that makes them look like punk rockers?
And about Clarke: she let all those people die, knowing that the Mount Weather people would fire a missile.
Drones! We have drones today. Something familiar. So Thelonius and his group have finally reached the City of Light. Such as it is.
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Post by KyleEl on Mar 6, 2015 17:02:00 GMT -5
Once again, assume these are spoilers.
No Thelonius this week.
But the leader of the Grounders seemed to have changed. She and Clarke were working together. Everything was fine and they were going to attack Mount Weather and get their people out after Raven turned off the electricity. All they had to do was open the door that hadn't been open for 97 years, before the emergency generator was turned on. The people inside had to move to level 5 so there would be enough power for everyone. "The 44" were to be found and captured and anyone not helping with this was to branded a traitor.
Octavia has been accepted by the black woman.
But these are the real spoilers.
The Grounders were told to retreat after their people came out. The people from The Ark were still inside. The leader of the Grounders said all that mattered was their people.
And the couple harboring Jasper and others were killed once they were found out.
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Post by KyleEl on Mar 13, 2015 15:31:46 GMT -5
At this point I'm not sure what would qualify as spoilers.
I can say that for everyone except Thelonius and whoever was with him, we have an ending which would be satisfactory if that was the end of the season and the series does not get renewed. A possible cliffhanger that would encourage people to come back is a discovery by Thelonius.
The black woman has rejected Octavia again, and they arrested Lincoln. I've forgotten how his situation turned out. But Octavia and her brother were reunited.
The people at Mount Weather were sitting at a nice table eating, with comforting lamps and classical music playing.
Clarke was reluctant to kill everyone at Mount Weather. After all, some of them were innocent. But they went inside and visited the former president. He was not willing to help. And others who were on The Ark, not just the 44, were being mistreated. Including Clarke's mother. People today donate bone marrow, so why couldn't they just do that? The idea was mentioned. Clarke hd no other choice. To save her people, she told the Asian guy to reverse the scrubbers so outside air could get in. And we know what happens to people at Mount Weather when that happens. Even Maya was inside.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 20, 2015 18:15:39 GMT -5
I watched three episodes today. Going to bake a pizza and watch the final one.
In the scene where Octavia challenged the grounders to let her train/fight, I thought she was going to shock them with how well she could fight. But it was more realistic and the grounder had no problem knocking her on her butt...several, no, make that numerous times.
The sky people have not been able to agree on how to succeed in rescuing the 47. There might not be a sky people alliance among themselves, but Clarke has been able to ally with some of the grounders.
I feel sorry for the young people on the mountain.
Will Clarke and her mother get past the knowledge that she did not evacuate people before the bomb blast?
I shall return.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Mar 21, 2015 14:50:11 GMT -5
Darn it! The last episode that recorded was not the season finale; it was the episode you posted about on March 6. It was the one where Thelonius crossed the mine field and saw the lights. Then the drone took off across the water and they got in the boat to follow it.
Thanks for all the updates. They helped to keep me focused.
Will now search for the two-hour finale.
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