5.05 "Self Help"

[SoCal]

Well, now that our little group, so soon re-united, now formed into 3 groups seems to have new troubles on all fronts. And it seems as though this episode will focus on Abraham and the members who decided to trek to Washington, DC. Doesn't look like their bus gets them too far. How will they cope? How does Abraham keep that flat top so styled? Watch, discuss and rate!

[mercurytheatre]

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Any episode where we don't lose anyone is a good one.

Eugene is a dick.

I have often wondered if the apocalypse is real ... or a coma dream that Rick is having back in the hospital.

Only 3 episodes left untill the break. They better be good.

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No the shows producers confirmed it is not a dream. Everything is "real"

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I did not enjoy this episode and in the end I really didn't like Abraham. Yeah what Eugene did was wrong for letting them believe that lie for so long... but he did say that even though he didn't know of a cure, Washington was still their best bet to survive. Abraham's beating him to a pulp at the end was disgusting. I missed the flashbacks of him and his "wife" ? Did he abuse her ? I don't like how he put his hands on Rosita either. I'm glad Rosita stopped him from murdering poor Eugene. Oooh but Maggie finally talked about beth..

Next week looks like a caryl episode.Confused about this timeline! I didn't think they were gone too long before Michone found Daryl outside... so how is there a whole episode of them BEFORE carol even gets kidnapped at the hospital? We shall see.

[mercurytheatre]

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Did anyone see the preview during The Talking Dead?
Carol seems very peaceful as they burn that body.
I do not think it was Beth.



This last epi had a few laughs. Those are needed from time to time.

[SoCal]

It was okay, but I just didn't feel myself drawn into the episode. I didn't get why the bus suddenly hit other cars and flipped over. And, that in a crash, supposedly that terrible, no one seemed to be very hurt.

The flashbacks to Abraham's former life were a little confusing to me.

Darryl and Maggie were hardly in the episode at all, although I like how tough Darryl has become. He seemed to be able to talk sense to Abraham, although Abraham didn't seem to take good advice.

I think a lot of us thought Eugene was full of it. If not a complete fraud then at least partial. But no, he's a complete fraud. It looked like Abraham could have killed him with those punches.

That town still looked about a mile or two away and yet the stench of a town filled with walkers reached them on the road. Yuck.

At least next week, we'll see what happened to Darryl and Carol. I wonder who they burned?

[AntiArbitrator]

I enjoyed the episode even though most of our people were MIA.

I had no idea Eugene was that afraid to fight the walkers. I guess I had assumed he was fighting along with everyone else. He is a smart guy and the water hose proved to be a quick and successful solution. He had better learn to fight though because his body guard no longer has the mission that was keeping him focused on survival. Will Abraham give up and join his family in Paradise?

Eugene revealed the truth because he was afraid Abraham would force him to go through the walkers. Did you hear some of those arrogant comments he made to Abraham?He was not at all humble. I think the comments, in addition to playing Abraham for a fool, provoked the beat down. Eugene sabotaged the truck in the first episode we saw them. Then, he sabotaged the bus by putting cut glass in the fuel line. He endangered their lives many times and some of their people were killed when trying to help him. He deserved a beat down.

Rosita is a very understanding person. Since there are no movies to watch, the voyeurism was Eugene's version of a XXX flick. 

SoCal, I agree the flashbacks were confusing and I think something important must have been cut when the episode was edited. According to The Talking Dead:

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Abraham was with a group of survivors from his neighborhood and they were all friends. While he was out scouting, the people raped his family and that is why the wife and kids looked the way they did. Eugene went into a rage and killed the culprits, the last of which was smashed with the food can. I am unsure if the family left because Abraham's rage scared them or what. That part made no sense because they did not survive.

[AntiArbitrator]

Nov 9, 2014 22:05:03 GMT -5 mercurytheatre said:

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Any episode where we don't lose anyone is a good one.

Eugene is a dick.

I have often wondered if the apocalypse is real ... or a coma dream that Rick is having back in the hospital.

Only 3 episodes left untill the break. They better be good.

OMG! I do not know what my reaction would be...probably send hate mail.

[SoCal]

Anti, weren't the flashbacks about Abraham's family? I don't think they were about Eugene.

[AntiArbitrator]

Nov 12, 2014 17:47:21 GMT -5 SoCal said:

Anti, weren't the flashbacks about Abraham's family? I don't think they were about Eugene.

Thanks. I had "Eugene" on the brain, but I meant Abraham.

[mercurytheatre]

This show reminds us that loss is constant, apocalypse or not.

Cherish the people in your life ... everyday.

[AntiArbitrator]

SoCal Someone actually selected your "utter crap" option. I love it!

[SoCal]

Anti, yes I was surprised by that, but to each his own, I guess!