5.14 "Spend"

[SoCal]

Only three episodes left!!! Where did this season go? Tensions seem to be mounting in Alexandria and Rick isn't immune from it. Will he and Pete be able to be friends? Will Carol bake more cookies or make a little boy disappear? Can Noah become a part of the whole group? What happened to Gabriel? Never mind. No one cares. Will Darryl build himself a new bike? So many questions. At least some of them may be answered in the next episode. Watch, rate and discuss.

[AntiArbitrator]

I said I like the way Eugene talks...but sometimes I want to slap him. He is not even holding a weapon in his hand in case Tara needs help. 

I am wondering who is denying responsibility for the mayhem. Has the community attracted herds like that before now?

[SoCal]

Mar 15, 2015 11:03:35 GMT -5 AntiArbitrator said:

Has the community attracted herds like that before now?

I wonder that as well. Is our little group like the Pied Piper? They seem to attract walker herds wherever they go.

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SPOILER: Click to show

So RICK is satan? No he's wrong, carol is satan.
but seriously just when i thought this character couldn't get more pathetic, he says that the people who saved his ass countless times don't deserve to be in alexandria.

Carol is getting on my damn nerves too. Her solution to everything now is to kill people. I get that she's an abused woman so this is a sensitive subject to her... but why tell rick that he has to be the one to kill jesses husband? that makes no fucking sense other than to force this jesse/rick pointless romance. Because that's the best way to start a relationship. kill your bae's husband

Carol and Gabriel need to be exorcised.

[AntiArbitrator]

My stomach feels like it is still tied in knots. I had gotten better with watching the walker scenes but tonight was very rough.

[mercurytheatre]

Mar 15, 2015 21:08:21 GMT -5 @smallvillian0 said:

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So RICK is satan? No he's wrong, carol is satan.
but seriously just when i thought this character couldn't get more pathetic, he says that the people who saved his ass countless times don't deserve to be in alexandria.

Carol is getting on my damn nerves too. Her solution to everything now is to kill people. I get that she's an abused woman so this is a sensitive subject to her... but why tell rick that he has to be the one to kill jesses husband? that makes no fucking sense other than to force this jesse/rick pointless romance. Because that's the best way to start a relationship. kill your bae's husband

Carol and Gabriel need to be exorcised.

I thought that bae was 'bacon and eggs'.

Sorry, this epi has me unsettled and I thought some levity would help.

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Mar 15, 2015 22:09:16 GMT -5 mercurytheatre said:

Mar 15, 2015 21:08:21 GMT -5 @smallvillian0 said:

SPOILER: Click to show

So RICK is satan? No he's wrong, carol is satan.
but seriously just when i thought this character couldn't get more pathetic, he says that the people who saved his ass countless times don't deserve to be in alexandria.

Carol is getting on my damn nerves too. Her solution to everything now is to kill people. I get that she's an abused woman so this is a sensitive subject to her... but why tell rick that he has to be the one to kill jesses husband? that makes no fucking sense other than to force this jesse/rick pointless romance. Because that's the best way to start a relationship. kill your bae's husband

Carol and Gabriel need to be exorcised.

I thought that bae was 'bacon and eggs'.

Sorry, this epi has me unsettled and I thought some levity would help.

hahaha! it's actually dutch for poop

[AntiArbitrator]

I did not realize how much tension was in my body until the episode ended and my stomach muscles hurt. I have calmed down but the muscles still hurt. If the rest of the season is like that, I will be watching with my hands over my face.

The upside:
Daryl on a bike.
I am happy that Eugene manned up and rescued Tara and bravely fought his way through walkers even though he was alone. 
Eugene started fighting when the guy insisted on leaving the others behind.
Glenn suffered but he did not lose his humanity. I would have understood if he shot that guy in the head. I hope they never take the dude on a run again.
Abraham's training and rage combined to allow him to kill so many walkers that the other walkers turned tail and ran off.
I am glad Abraham will become a leader because that might help him to control his rage. 
I am glad Maggie is one of the decision makers and that she overheard Gabriel's conversation with Deanna.

The downside:
Noah - that is the most gruesome scene I have witnessed.
Glenn will be scarred for life after witnessing Noah's mutilation.
Carol treating Sam badly.
Carol's solution for abuse - you must kill him.
Rick not telling Carol to go to hell.
When Gabriel started tearing pages from the Bible, I knew he was crazy. Then he proved it when he told Deanna to turn away the other members.
Alexandria philosophy is when in danger, it is okay to leave others behind. That really stinks.

[AntiArbitrator]

Fans on Twitter are commenting that TWD has a history of adding black men just so they can kill them off - Bob, Tyreese and now Noah. Gabriel is left, but no one cares if he dies.

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Don't forget T-Dog. It's ridiculous!!! We knew virtually nothing about the man yet he was on for 3 seasons..

[SoCal]

It's taken me almost 24 hours to recover from last night's gruesome episode. Adrian deserved it, but Noah sure didn't.

Happy parts: Eugene finally steps up.
Darryl back on a motorcycle (even if it wasn't a Harley).
Noah is "in it for the long haul."
Maggie settling in as part of the governing body.
Carol begrudgingly relenting to bake some cookies for Sam.
Abraham not letting his fear get the better of him and saving all the construction crew.

Awful parts: Adrian getting impaled and then eaten alive.
Tara getting badly hurt in the explosion.
Noah being torn apart in the revolving door while Glenn watched
Finding out that the Alexandria protocol is to leave wounded members behind if others can get away.
Gabriel thanking Deana for letting him in, but telling her to get rid of the others since they're not good people.
Carol telling Rick he had to kill Peter.

Questionable: Rick and Pete have a conversation
Pete drunkenly asks for Rick's friendship
Sam asking Carol for a gun.
Carol tries to get past Rick (now drunker) at his home to see Jessie and Sam.
Deanna telling Sasha that what Sasha said about Alexandria, "This is not real," was "bullshit."

I still have a lot to ponder, but I have to wipe my mind clear of certain images first.

[AntiArbitrator]

Mar 16, 2015 16:32:23 GMT -5 @smallvillian0 said:

Don't forget T-Dog. It's ridiculous!!! We knew virtually nothing about the man yet he was on for 3 seasons..

Right. Fans were very upset about his death and created wonderful tributes for the character.

[AntiArbitrator]

SoCal said 

Pete drunkenly asks for Rick's friendship

I wonder if Pete was baiting Rick when he commented that Rick is not always on duty and said "I saw you." I thought he was going to call Rick out on kissing Jesse, but he said he was talking about the beer. Pete is a really big man and Rick would be in for a heck of a fight if it comes to that.

I do not know if they were able to get away with any of the conduits that they needed. Does that mean the homes will run out of electricity?  Aiden caused the chaos by continuing to shoot a walker and a grenade exploded, but the walkers might have wandered off by next week. Any volunteers to return to the factory?

I noticed some of the walkers at the construction site were very fast, like in season 1, so they might have recently died. 

It seems like Aaron did not waste any time hitting the road with Daryl. I hope they are back next week.


Why was Carol being mean to Sam? Does she want him to remain scared of her so he will not tell the secret? Is she pushing him away because of her personal tragedies with children? I am not sure.

[SoCal]

Please don't tell me TWD fans are becoming bean counters when it comes to who is killed off in this series.

I mean, come on, it's a TV show about zombies for crap's sake. I've seen lots of OTB (other than black) characters killed off: Beth, Merle, Sofia, Dal, the Governor, Hershel.....etc,etc.

Please don't let this be a race thing......just a zombie thing, OK?

[AntiArbitrator]

Mar 17, 2015 9:59:18 GMT -5 SoCal said:

Please don't tell me TWD fans are becoming bean counters when it comes to who is killed off in this series.

I mean, come on, it's a TV show about zombies for crap's sake. I've seen lots of OTB (other than black) characters killed off: Beth, Merle, Sofia, Dal, the Governor, Hershel.....etc,etc.

Please don't let this be a race thing......just a zombie thing, OK?

I do not think we will have a race war on this forum so I hope you can relax. I brought the topic up because I think this is a safe environment to discuss it rather than discuss it out there where fans attack each other for having a different opinion.

I do not like the fact that all of the worthy black males were killed off and the only one left is that unscrupulous, selfish, cowardly and back-stabbing Gabriel. If TWD did not want to make it a race issue, they could have done better.

I am just talking about men and when Merle, Dale, the Governor, etc. were killed, there were still white men left who are fan favorites. That is a big difference.

I would say the same thing if all of the women were killed off. In fact, I would be having a hissy fit if they killed all of the women and left one woman that we do not like.

I hope you can see my point.

[SoCal]

You're right. When other OTB's were killed off there were others to take their place. I thought Tyreese was a strong presence before and after Bob was killed and I miss his character. I won't miss Gabriel when he gets torn apart because his character is a conniving, sniveling miserable piece of zombie chow. By the same token, I didn't care that Dale got killed off because his character had become rather annoying. So had Andrea and her he's bad/he's good back and forth with the Governor.

AA, I do see your point and I do like that we can discuss this here without all the hysteria that I'm sure takes place in other forums.

When I said that I hoped the TWD fandom didn't become a bunch of racial bean counters, I suppose I should have been more specific and referenced your comment about Twitter. My bad.

Discuss amongst yourselves!

[AntiArbitrator]

SoCal Thanks! And, of course, I noticed the hint that you will not be participating.

[SoCal]

Mar 17, 2015 15:21:39 GMT -5 AntiArbitrator said:

SoCal Thanks! And, of course, I noticed the hint that you will not be participating.

I won't participate in other venues, but if there's a calm discussion here, I will.

[mercurytheatre]

I'm watching this episode again in today's marathon.
In the scene with Ford at the construction site, one of the men says that he has to send a fax to Cleveland.
Obvious that there are other survivors ... I wonder if we will see them in the future. I also wonder if it is a similar, self sustained community like Alexandria.

[AntiArbitrator]

Mar 29, 2015 18:31:08 GMT -5 mercurytheatre said:

I'm watching this episode again in today's marathon.
In the scene with Ford at the construction site, one of the men says that he has to send a fax to Cleveland.
Obvious that there are other survivors ... I wonder if we will see them in the future. I also wonder if it is a similar, self sustained community like Alexandria.

My understanding is "send a fax to Cleveland" was a euphemism for "taking a leak". That is why the man was trying to fasten his pants as he ran from the walkers.

[mercurytheatre]

Ahhhhh ... now I feel really stupid. Lol