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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 6, 2017 18:55:39 GMT -5
7.01 Hyperion Heights
PREMIERE
10-6-17
Henry encounters a troubled Cinderella in a distant realm and is forced to make difficult choices; Henry's daughter Lucy finds him disillusioned at his home in Seattle and must make him remember his true self to defeat the curse.
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 9, 2017 14:26:18 GMT -5
They've just changed it too much. It's nice to see three of the same actors, but this is a totally different story and the villain isn't even likable. At least we have the fairy tale story but even that wasn't particularly enjoyable.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 9, 2017 18:42:56 GMT -5
I agree with you. I was happy to see Rumple, Regina and Hook so I will probably continue to watch it. I hope Henry does not take too long realizing he is "The Author".
It seemed that Rumple was the villain in the Alice Cinderella portion of the fairy tale, so did he do this to them?
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 13, 2017 14:24:01 GMT -5
I have no idea who did what.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 13, 2017 18:20:15 GMT -5
7.02 A Pirate's Life
10-13-17
Henry and his Storybrooke family set off on a mission to find Cinderella; an unexpected foe threatens the group's success; Jacinda searches for a way to see Lucy; Victoria Belfrey tries to push Henry out of the neighborhood.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 14, 2017 15:22:03 GMT -5
I enjoyed Det. Gold’s “Training Day” scenes with Det. Killian. When Henry hesitated after putting his hand in his pocket at the recital, I was surprised and thought Killian had actually planted the bracelet on him. I was glad it was something else. I do not like Victoria Belfrey even though I like the other OUAT villains. She has no doubt met her match when she tries to control Det. Gold.
I think I understand where the characters are now. Original Emma is pregnant with original Hook’s child and they live in Storybrooke.
Henry has partnered with other-realm Hook and original Regina. They are on an adventure that will lead Henry to “his story” and other-realm Hook to find his daughter.
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 16, 2017 13:19:11 GMT -5
Detective Gold? Is that his name? Otherwise, I agree with everything in the first paragraph above.
I feel more comfortable now that the original cast members are themselves in the realm where Cinderella came from. And I liked seeing a Storybrooke scene.
Several things bother me. "Me Myself & I" is like this show, in that the same characters are shown at different points in their lives. They sort of attempt to predict what life will be like in 2042. Here, it is many years after the events of Storybrooke. What was the year when last season ended? It must surely be at least 2027. And certain characters don't look older. Regina didn't look older when she was called to where Henry was. Emma did, but she also looked older in the scene in Storybrooke.
Also, there seems to be the attitude that any Hispanic actor can play any Hispanic character. If Henry really is Lucy's father, she shouldn't look Native American (many Mexicans look Native American) if her mother is black. Although last night she looked black. Maybe it's her hair. She could have hair like that with a white father, I suppose.
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 16, 2017 14:31:51 GMT -5
Queen Mary from "Reign" was with Henry when the characters from Storybrooke arrived.
I just remembered. How were they going to get back? I saw one of them throw something and that orange circle appeared.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 16, 2017 17:24:42 GMT -5
I do not know what else to call Gold and Killian. I do not remember the new names.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 20, 2017 18:57:48 GMT -5
7.03 The Garden of Forking Paths
10-20-17
Cinderella joins forces with a new friend; Jacinda tries to protect Lucy's community garden; Lucy tries to convince Henry that Victoria is after more than just a plot of land; Victoria makes a discovery that could alter everyone's fate.
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 23, 2017 15:13:22 GMT -5
I can't see the word "forking" without thinking of "The Good Place".
I was pleased with the outcome of the problem with the garden. I couldn't believe Jacinda burned the petition because it would be so much work to get those signatures again.
What Lucy did was dangerous, but at least Henry was there to help her.
I think Killian is called Detective Rogers, and I was pleased he went to the trouble of investigating a case that wasn't "official". Are there any TV cops who don't break rules? Gold, whatever his name is now, wasn't pleased, and he seemed to think Victoria was his boss.
The scenes from the other realm made this episode more enjoyable. I thought at first that the cobbler was Grumpy, but he was too tall. That other girl was prettier than Cinderella.
Cinderella wanted to be called Ella because "Cinder" was an insult, but Cinderella is a pretty name.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 25, 2017 17:10:27 GMT -5
I was curious about the town's name “Hyperion” and looked it up. Two likely candidates for the name.
1. In Greek mythology, Hyperion “The High One” was one of the 12 Titan children of Gaia and Uranus who overthrew their father (Uranus).
2. “Hyperion” is a 1989 sci-fi novel by Dan Simmons. The plot features multiple time-lines and characters.
I think it probably took its name from the novel because the series has multiple time-lines and characters.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 25, 2017 17:54:05 GMT -5
I can't see the word "forking" without thinking of "The Good Place". I was pleased with the outcome of the problem with the garden. I couldn't believe Jacinda burned the petition because it would be so much work to get those signatures again. What Lucy did was dangerous, but at least Henry was there to help her. I think Killian is called Detective Rogers, and I was pleased he went to the trouble of investigating a case that wasn't "official". Are there any TV cops who don't break rules? Gold, whatever his name is now, wasn't pleased, and he seemed to think Victoria was his boss. The scenes from the other realm made this episode more enjoyable. I thought at first that the cobbler was Grumpy, but he was too tall. That other girl was prettier than Cinderella. Cinderella wanted to be called Ella because "Cinder" was an insult, but Cinderella is a pretty name. "The Good Place" has given a very different meaning to "forking'. I was pleased with the outcome of the problem too, but I was not pleased with Jacinda burning the petitions. I really did not think she would do that. After she did that, I wondered if she would do what her step-mother asked her to do in the other realm. It looked as if she actually would have taken Jeremiah's heart if Regina had not stopped her. So, Jacinda is being honest when she tells Lucy that she is a regular person and not a hero. I thought Jeremiah looked like the dwarf also. Lucy seems fearless, but I thought they would find something magical rather than the piece of glass from the shoe. If Victoria removed the coffin from the hole, I do not know how they did that without raising questions. I like Regina's alternate name. The name Roni suits her as a bar owner. She is so lovely and I enjoy her in the role of a hero. I had the impression Detective Weaver (Gold) treats Victoria as someone he has to outsmart and work around rather than go head-to-head with. I remember him telling her in the previous episode that she is not his boss. Weaver wants Detective Rogers to follow his lead rather than make decisions on his own. I do not think Weaver is a villain and I hope he and Rogers start trusting each other. Roger Griffin, the bribe taker, will report to Weaver when Victoria contacts him. Weaver is savvy. Emma Booth, the lady who plays the witch, has acted in a lot of shows, but nothing I have seen. Did we see her in the other realm? Maybe they only mentioned her. |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 27, 2017 21:02:43 GMT -5
7.04 Beauty
10-27-17
Victoria forces Ivy to take Lucy trick-or-treating; Tilly appears to be waking up from the curse and is intent on leading Weaver to the truth; Rumple seeks the answer to a prophecy that could cement a happy ending with Belle.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Oct 28, 2017 14:40:53 GMT -5
Pretty good episode. I enjoyed seeing Rumple and Belle’s love story play into their senior years. I like the two of them being together.
Tilly is Alice. She is feisty when she is off her meds. She took us a step closer to learning what happened to Storybrooke. I thought Victoria changed Storybrooke, but Rumple seemed to have knowledge of the change before it happened.
If Henry becomes close friends with Tiana, that will probably create drama with both Lucy and Cinderella.
The Halloween portion was not as much fun as “MacGyver”, but both series referred to the “Upside Down” featured in “Stranger Things”.
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Post by KyleEl on Oct 30, 2017 13:47:31 GMT -5
Gold and Belle together was one of the nicest storylines this show ever did. And Gold had to do real work. I do wonder where they got food and their other needs. It's a shame they had to end it with Belle dying.
Tilly is interesting. I didn't care for her but her weird behavior is growing on me. And I remember a version of the Alice story where one of the characters said, "Whoooo ... arrrr .... yuuuu?" the way she did.
I think I have the detectives' names figured out. On SNL there was a sketch where a character talked like a pirate and the term "Jolly Roger" was used. Hook is Rogers. That's got to be what that means. As for Gold, we saw his name on a business card. Not his first name. But we do know he is Weaver. I saw the spinning wheel in one of the scenes with Gold and Belle. Could "weave" be a term for what you do with one of those?
Ivy sure was nasty and I never expected henry to like her. I wondered how a mere receptionist could care so much about fashionable clothing, though girls like that do wear such great looking clothes and she certainly did. She was Queen Mary in "Reign" and had the best of everything, but she rarely acted spoiled or entitled. She cared about the ordinary people. Now those around her tended to be spoiled and entitled. I noticed she sounded British at times. She's still having trouble with getting rid of her accent.
Lucy shouldn't have done what she did and she nearly got her mother in trouble.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 5, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -5
7.05 Greenbacks
11-3-17
Tiana seeks help from a traveling soothsayer; in Hyperion Heights, Sabine and Jacinda take on a risky business venture; Ivy recruits Henry to investigate Victoria; Roni makes a discovery that could change her relationship with Henry forever.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 5, 2017 10:27:28 GMT -5
Greenbacks
There were two twists in this episode.
The flashbacks focused on Princess Tiana. After her father died, her family and kingdom became poor and she wanted to meet a prince who would restore their fortune. She went to a soothsayer, Dr. Facilier, who arranged to have her father’s firefly ruby stolen. The twist in this story was when Prince Marias kissed his true love, he returned to being a frog.
Jacinda and Sabine started a venture together and it was going well until Victoria arranged to have the restaurant destroyed. Fortunately for the girls, the fire department ruled the fire was caused by arson.
Hook/Rogers met a man who had a rune tattooed on his arm that was identical to the one Eloise Gardner drew ten years ago. The man said it is a powerful rune and that he never heard of the girl. Of course, he was lying and later, he made a phone call to tell someone that Rogers was looking for the girl.
Victoria is exceptionally rude to her daughter Ivy and wanted Ivy to be more like her. The second twist in the story is that Ivy is probably eviller than her mother. She and the witch are working together.
When Ivy led Roni to her mother’s secret room, Roni saw a photo of her and young Henry together. When she showed the picture to Henry, he told her that was him.
This was a good episode and it will lead to a lot of changes in Hyperion Heights.
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 6, 2017 15:51:06 GMT -5
I had to correct an earlier post when Tiana's mother (who is Robin Givens) called her by name. The only girl I know of that Henry is becoming friends with is Ivy, and I didn't know her name, so I concluded Tiana was her name.
I was hoping the prince would really help Tiana. They mentioned a ball where the prince would find a wife, so I'm wondering if these flashbacks are out of order.
The first thing I thought when the restaurant burned was that the mean boss would come back, find out what the girls did, and blame the girls. And in a way, it was their fault because if they hadn't sold those desserts there, Victoria would have had no reason to call Wreck-It Ralph (did anyone get that reference?).
Roni saw a picture of her with Henry. This promises to be interesting.
So it's Ivy, not Victoria, who is responsible for the strange girl in the hidden room. I don't care which one is more evil. But I do like looking at Ivy.
I'm not sure what the meaning of Rogers' search for a missing girl means. Maybe this was something started last week that I just forgot about. "Scandal" has a search for not just one but many missing girls, and they're all black, which means the media and the police have lost interest. And I'm thinking Hook hasn't reached his full potential on this show. The pirate on "Family Guy" with two peg legs and two peg arms can grab things with his arms, and he keeps his calendar and charts inside one arm. He pulled them down like window shades. They never gave the hook similar abilities.
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 6, 2017 17:06:34 GMT -5
One more thing. Ivy was Henry's daughter-in-law on her other show. So it's weird seeing her connected with another Henry.
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 9, 2017 16:31:18 GMT -5
On "Brooklyn Nine-Nine" two characters bought a truck to use as a food truck in a police auction. That sounds like how Jacinda and Sabine got their food truck. But one of the other characters are going to promote it as the "Murder Truck". The other is horrified at the idea.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 9, 2017 18:42:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the meaning of Rogers' search for a missing girl means. Maybe this was something started last week that I just forgot about. "Scandal" has a search for not just one but many missing girls, and they're all black, which means the media and the police have lost interest. And I'm thinking Hook hasn't reached his full potential on this show. The pirate on "Family Guy" with two peg legs and two peg arms can grab things with his arms, and he keeps his calendar and charts inside one arm. He pulled them down like window shades. They never gave the hook similar abilities. This is what I said following the second episode. Hook has not said "daughter" since that episode. Henry has partnered with other-realm Hook and original Regina. They are on an adventure that will lead Henry to “his story” and other-realm Hook to find his daughter. |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 10, 2017 19:25:53 GMT -5
7.06 Wake Up Call
11-10-17
Feeling like a third wheel as Henry and Cinderella's relationship strengthens, Regina finds herself needed by Drizella; Roni seeks Weaver's help in finding answers; Tilly offers Rogers some intriguing advice concerning Eloise Gardener.
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Drizella is Ivy
I think Tilly was Alice.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 12, 2017 13:00:51 GMT -5
Wake Up Call
Good Regina tried to help Drizella avoid the bad choices Regina made, but Drizella never had any intention of being good. When Drizella learned her mother wanted to use her heart to resurrect her sister, Drizella brutally killed a prince so her heart would become dark and useless to her mother.
Rumple is always the man with the answers and loves to make a deal. Weaver was able to give Roni the information on Henry’s adoption. That broke the spell for Regina, but not for the others. Ivy wanted Regina to snap out of the spell and break up the relationship between Henry and Jacinda. That would avoid true love’s kiss waking everyone. I think it will be interesting to see how they will get around the threat that everyone Regina loves would die if the curse is broken.
Some things I like:
Rogers still says “Aye” like when he was a sailor.
Regina as the Savior.
Weaver likes to make deals, but is neither good nor bad.
True love’s kiss plays a role in the story.
Flashbacks
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 13, 2017 16:13:07 GMT -5
At last we have a likeable villain in this version of the present day. Or at least better than Victoria. Not Drizella, though. She's just plain evil. She does, however, dress a lot like the character she played in "Reign". I had hope for her when Regina was working with her, but things didn't work out.
I did like seeing that Rumplestiltskin has become good and wants to do something with The Dark One.
I liked the scenes with Henry in the present.
And now Regina knows the truth. And so do we. I had my doubts about these characters being the same ones but without their memories.
Weaver was going to walk out of that hospital. Everyone gets better so fast on TV. And I like that he made the deal with Regina, and now Regina knows. I thought those records would be harder to get.
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 13, 2017 16:16:34 GMT -5
I was looking forward to a break when the American Music Awards were on, and then I remembered. I watch this when I used to, not when it's on. And we get one that is two hours. That's not good.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 13, 2017 16:35:12 GMT -5
At last we have a likeable villain in this version of the present day. Or at least better than Victoria. Not Drizella, though. She's just plain evil. Who is the likeable villain? I am not happy about the two hours either. |
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 13, 2017 16:38:50 GMT -5
At last we have a likeable villain in this version of the present day. Or at least better than Victoria. Not Drizella, though. She's just plain evil. Who is the likeable villain? Ivy has turned out to be more evil than her mother, and yet somehow she's easier to like. And we get one that is two hours. That's not good. I am not happy about the two hours either. Why? In my case it's such an effort to keep from going over 100 percent. I set the TiVo to record the American Music Awards and was told there was a conflict. I believe this means some shows will get deleted before I want them to be. But I have no information explaining what will happen. |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Nov 13, 2017 19:21:45 GMT -5
Who is the likeable villain? Ivy has turned out to be more evil than her mother, and yet somehow she's easier to like. I am not happy about the two hours either. Why? In my case it's such an effort to keep from going over 100 percent. I set the TiVo to record the American Music Awards and was told there was a conflict. I believe this means some shows will get deleted before I want them to be. But I have no information explaining what will happen. I will have to keep watching to determine if Ivy is less evil than Drizella. She did threaten to cause the death of all of Regina's loved ones. That is evil enough for me. I do not dislike her, and I hope she redeems herself. Friday was the only night I could watch all of the shows without pushing some to later in the week. That will not be possible with a two-hour episode unless another show has a bye week. |
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Post by KyleEl on Nov 17, 2017 16:12:00 GMT -5
For me, Sunday is a day to catch up. I can watch this show anytime, but I wanted to see it at its old time, or at least after "AFV". I think the American Music Awards were recorded last year with an antenna but I don't have room to do that this year. I can't believe I didn't go back and watch the parts of TV episodes or movies that I needed to see again. I used to watch shows I recorded as if they were live and go back only occasionally, but now I can't get rid of these other shows without watching the whole thing again because that's the only way.
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