Once Upon A Time - Season 7

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7.07 Eloise Gardener

11-17-17

Hook's pursuit of revenge leads him to encounter Rapunzel; Rogers continues his search for Eloise Gardener; Ivy's plot to take down Victoria has consequences for Lucy and Jacinda.

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7.08 Pretty in Blue

11-17-17

Henry and Ella follow Alice into Wonderland, where Henry discovers a surprising connection between Ella and this strange world; Jacinda reconnects with an old friend in order to regain custody of Lucy, straining her relationship with Henry.

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Eloise Gardener

I really enjoyed this episode. Hook was featured in the flashbacks and the present day. I am sure Hook’s experience in climbing the beanstalk is what made climbing the tower look so easy. Where there is magic, things are not what they seem to be. Hook was tricked by the witch, but he did not seem angry; he seemed pleased to nurture the baby. I need to ponder how the witch’s baby became Alice. And I want to know how Hook freed her from the tower.

I thought Tilly was Alice, but I never thought Hook was old enough to be father of someone Tilly’s age.

Det. Weaver has been trying to prevent Ms. Belfrey from doing serious harm to Det. Rogers, but Rogers does not trust Weaver and continued the search. Rogers thinks he has done the right thing and located Eloise Gardener, but the witch he released - again - is deadly.

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Pretty in Blue

In the flashback, Alice returned to Hook because she thought they were cured of the cursed heart curse. When they hugged, Hook became ill and Alice became distraught and ran off. Henry and Ella followed her and ran through a portal that took them to Wonderland. Henry quickly learned Ella had an ulterior motive for going to Wonderland. She wanted to find her mother.

Drizella approached Henry and froze him so that she could poison his heart, but Alice and Ella trapped her.

Jack, a friend of Hook, came into the camp and I recognized him as Nick, Lucy’s father.

In the present day, when Eloise/Boethel(sp?) gave Det. Rogers a cake as a thank you, I wondered what it would do to him. Fortunately, Roni stopped by and tossed the cake in the trash right in front of Rogers.

Roni asked Weaver to team up with her, but he denied knowing what she was talking about.

Roni told Henry she was going to San Francisco to ask for help from someone who hates her and he joined her on the road trip.

It seems like they have lived under that curse for a very long time. Now I am thinking Tilly is Hook’s daughter who has grown up.

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Nov 19, 2017 21:23:43 GMT -5 AntiArbitrator said:

Eloise Gardener

I really enjoyed this episode. Hook was featured in the flashbacks and the present day. I am sure Hook’s experience in climbing the beanstalk is what made climbing the tower look so easy. Where there is magic, things are not what they seem to be. Hook was tricked by the witch, but he did not seem angry; he seemed pleased to nurture the baby. I need to ponder how the witch’s baby became Alice. And I want to know how Hook freed her from the tower.

I thought Tilly was Alice, but I never thought Hook was old enough to be father of someone Tilly’s age.

Det. Weaver has been trying to prevent Ms. Belfrey from doing serious harm to Det. Rogers, but Rogers does not trust Weaver and continued the search. Rogers thinks he has done the right thing and located Eloise Gardener, but the witch he released - again - is deadly.

Rapunzel's hair didn't look all that long but eventually I realized how much there really was because it was all over the place.

As for whether time has passed, there is no evidence that when the action takes place in Seattle we haven't been sent back in time to 2017. And no one is any older than at the end of last season.

I'm confused as to who Eloise is. She was in one place, but the girl Ivy is keeping in hiding looks like her.

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Nov 19, 2017 23:26:31 GMT -5 AntiArbitrator said:

Pretty in Blue

In the flashback, Alice returned to Hook because she thought they were cured of the cursed heart curse. When they hugged, Hook became ill and Alice became distraught and ran off. Henry and Ella followed her and ran through a portal that took them to Wonderland. Henry quickly learned Ella had an ulterior motive for going to Wonderland. She wanted to find her mother.

Drizella approached Henry and froze him so that she could poison his heart, but Alice and Ella trapped her.

Jack, a friend of Hook, came into the camp and I recognized him as Nick, Lucy’s father.

In the present day, when Eloise/Boethel(sp?) gave Det. Rogers a cake as a thank you, I wondered what it would do to him. Fortunately, Roni stopped by and tossed the cake in the trash right in front of Rogers.

Roni asked Weaver to team up with her, but he denied knowing what she was talking about.

Roni told Henry she was going to San Francisco to ask for help from someone who hates her and he joined her on the road trip.

It seems like they have lived under that curse for a very long time. Now I am thinking Tilly is Hook’s daughter who has grown up.

Hook was affected by kryptonite!

When Henry and Nick talked about music it sounded like they were speaking a foreign language. And how many years ago was their music popular?

Weaver didn't seem to know who he really was, but he could have easily been lying.

I'm glad Roni gave Jacinda a job.

I didn't think anything about the cake. I thought it was a nice gesture. To me Roni seemed to be overreacting.

When Ella was in that maze, it made me think of "The Mick" from last week. Mickey is raising her sister's children while her sister and brother-in-law are serving time. The family lives in a huge mansion, but the kids' great-grandmother lives in a bigger, nicer mansion. Alba the housekeeper, who helps Mickey take care of the kids, went in a garden maze with the youngest and she finally panicked and attacked the hedges. It still took hours to get out.

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I forgot to mention but I didn't know this was the week of the two-hour episode. I waited until 7 to watch. Once I realized it was two hours, I knew I'd have to miss the musical performances on the American Music awards, but based on what I did see, I didn't miss much. I even had time left over to see "Ghosted" up to the point the guys ended up in another dimension. I'll have to find out what that is tonight.

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7.09 One Little Tear

12-8-17

Victoria tries to free herself from jail and wake Anastasia; Lady Tremaine's surprising backstory is revealed; Jacinda and Nick share an exchange that could alter her future with Henry.

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“One Little Tear” explained a lot about who the characters were and how they got to be the way they are now. I enjoyed that because I was having difficulty with so many dual identities.

It is shocking that Victoria was once so pure of heart she would sacrifice anything for her family. I cannot say I understand her hatred for Ivy, but Drizella did not return her mother’s love. That hurt and drove Rapunzel to poison Cecilia so she could get her family back. I understand that, but her hatred seems extreme.

Weaver still misses the love of his life and worked with Victoria only because he thought she could help him get back to Belle. True love! I am glad Weaver and Rogers will be working together now.

I was surprised Lucy collapsed when Anastasia awakened after a tear was dropped on her forehead.

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This didn't record. I checked the listings and there was a local news program. I didn't know whether the show was even on this week, until I saw it had recorded yesterday. The same thing happens next Friday.

Now we know Weaver knows who he is. I'm not clear on how he would get back to Belle.

I understand better how these people ended up the way they were. That's not to say I enjoyed the episode. I did like seeing Lucy knowing that she was no longer likely to be taken away from her mother.

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7.10 The Eighth Witch

12-15-17

When Drizella threatens the realm with a dark curse, Henry and Ella take extreme actions to protect Lucy and the others; Regina must make an unimaginable choice; Roni recruits Henry to travel to San Francisco to search for her sister.

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The Eighth Witch

Anastasia is important to Goethel and Ivy because she is the only one in the Hyperion Heights with magic. Goethel wants to use the magic to form a coven of witches. Goethel betrayed Ivy and pushed her into a hole or well.

Some of the episode was a little confusing to me. It seemed there was Goethel, then Victoria, then Goethel again talking to Ivy.

I know Anastasia is one confused child who does not understand what is happening around her. Rumple thinks she is The Guardian.

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Okay, now we know what the curse is.

Some of the episode is always confusing to me.

Rumplestiltskin said there was no way to stop the curse, but he asked someone to give him something when they arrived at the new location so he would remember. How would she remember, though?

I'm even more confused because no one seems to get older.

Zelena is still hot, especially in workout clothes. I liked seeing her daughter.

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Secret Garden

SEASON 7, EPISODE 11 • NEW
3/2/18, 8:00 PM ON WMARDT 2 • TV-PG • STEREO • CC • DVS

Robin engages in a risky relationship with Mother Gothel; Roni and Kelly strike a deal with Eloise, who is desperate to save Lucy from her mysterious illness; things finally come to a head between Victoria and Ivy.

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It was pretty good and not too difficult to follow the story. I did not expect Zelena's daughter to be 18 years old. I do have difficulty following the time jump. Although Victoria/Rapunzel was not a nice character, I was disappointed to lose her. I guess the way she died, sacrificing herself to save her daughter, was a satisfactory ending to her story.

I am glad Regina and Selena are getting along. 

Finally, Hook and Rumple are in agreement about Goethel.

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I'm glad you didn't think the story was difficult to follow. I tried to imagine a person who had never seen the show starting with the episode.

I thought it was funny to see these witches and then hear the xylophone that so many cell phones use.

If Zelena's daughter was 18, what year was it and why didn't Zelena look any older? And it said many years ago. Seattle should be like "The Jetsons".

I was so happy Victoria sacrificed herself. She had no redeeming qualities and I didn't want Ivy to die, as nasty as she is.

I didn't know the bar was Zelena's.

And now we know the truth about Henry.

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Mar 6, 2018 16:31:47 GMT -5 KyleEl said:

I'm glad you didn't think the story was difficult to follow. I tried to imagine a person who had never seen the show starting with the episode.

I thought it was funny to see these witches and then hear the xylophone that so many cell phones use.

If Zelena's daughter was 18, what year was it and why didn't Zelena look any older? And it said many years ago. Seattle should be like "The Jetsons".

I was so happy Victoria sacrificed herself. She had no redeeming qualities and I didn't want Ivy to die, as nasty as she is.

I didn't know the bar was Zelena's.

And now we know the truth about Henry.

Anyone starting with this episode would not have a clue what was happening. Most of the episodes were difficult for me to follow, but I could follow the major points in this one. They needed to wake Lucy up. Goethel needed the stone to extract the magic. A life for a life meant someone had to die in order for Lucy to wake up.

I did not know Zelena was involved with the bar either. Her flashbacks do not seem logical.

Someone is destroying the evidence about Henry being Lucy's father, but we have known he was her father since the beginning of this story arc.

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Anyone starting with this episode would not have a clue what was happening. Most of the episodes were difficult for me to follow, but I could follow the major points in this one. They needed to wake Lucy up. Goethel needed the stone to extract the magic. A life for a life meant someone had to die in order for Lucy to wake up.

I did not know Zelena was involved with the bar either. Her flashbacks do not seem logical.

Someone is destroying the evidence about Henry being Lucy's father, but we have known he was her father since the beginning of this story arc.

Well, sure, the major points.

When has this show ever been logical?

We now have actual proof Henry is Lucy's father.

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The show is listed as airing tonight on my TiVo, which can be updated unlike a newspaper that was already printed.

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A Taste of the Heights

SEASON 7, EPISODE 12 • NEW
3/9/18, 8:00 PM ON WMARDT 2 • TV-PG • STEREO • CC • DVS

Tiana takes a trip through the bayou and has a surprising encounter; Sabine reconnects with an old friend whose plans could jeopardize her culinary dreams; Rogers and Weaver make a shocking discovery.

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The strangest things happened. My newest TiVo said the episode recorded. I started to watch and it was a news special, just like the newspaper said. Two problems: even if the TiVo gets the updated information about when the episode will air, it is a rerun because it already recorded. And once the wrong time was given out, chances that the right time will be given out are slim. With my older TiVos, it is actually impossible because I use a phone line for programming information and updates cannot be made that way. All calls are outgoing to obtain the information, although software updates are incoming.

The older TiVo that is hooked up to an antenna got the episode, but for the first time in a long time, if ever, it started with the theme song. I chose to focus on my newest machine because fewer shows are getting taped on the older one.

Amazingly, the episode showed up on the newest machine, but with no episode summary (so it wasn't considered a rerun). And it started with "previously". I made a discovery when there was a problem with "America's Funniest Home Videos". Only a minute of the show recorded. I went to the listings and selected "Watch Live". It's a good thing I did this before the 30 minutes were up, but then I got the entire episode with an antenna so it probably would have been all right. Well, not the entire episode. I recorded the show on the newest machine and only a couple of seconds got lost. I went in the other room and discovered it started a minute late. I've had this problem on the newest machine but don't know how you fix it. I posted on the TiVo board and haven't checked to see if there's a solution. It was actually pretty common the last time it happened to me.

But it wouldn't have mattered. "Previously" was all I would have lost. Ivy was missing from the episode but Victoria was mentioned. The doctor who knows the truth about Henry is dead and Rogers and Weaver have made a connection to other deaths. The man who wants to take over from Victoria as villain looks familiar for some reason. I figured out he looks like 2Pac, but 2Pac is dead, so that's not who I'm thinking of. I thought it was a shame Sabine couldn't be a success with her food truck but eventually she solved her problem. And she had an interesting relationship with the man in the other food truck. And this was true in the other realm.

Regina and Zelena deceived the new villain, but I'm not sure what the point was. They know him and he knows who they really are. Hopefully they can keep him from causing them problems. And he has a connection with Sabine's new friend.

It's good to see Lucy back with her mom. I'm not clear on what their new discovery is.

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It seemed like we were seeing a new story arc when Henry was presenting his radio show H-Town.

We cannot trust bakers who create gingerbread houses. Later, we learned the baker and Dr. Sage were both killed because they were members of the witches’ cult.

When Sabine had to stop serving food because of a missing permit, I thought the cop was being paid off, but he was a nice cop who was doing his job. Unfortunately, Naveen is under the control of Dr. Facilier. Naveen (Jeff Pierre) is currently co-starring in “Beyond”, another series I am watching.

I was displeased that wicked magician, Dr. Facilier, and Regina kissed. She must really like the bad boys. I hope Regina is tricking Dr. Facilier into thinking she is still interested in him.

Lucy is quick on her feet. I liked the way she jumped into action to break up the true kiss. But who gave her the clue now that Victoria is gone? It is probably the same person who collected the test results, but I do not know who did that.

It's good to see Lucy back with her mom. I'm not clear on what their new discovery is.

I am drawing a blank on the "new discovery".

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It's good to see Lucy back with her mom. I'm not clear on what their new discovery is.

I am drawing a blank on the "new discovery".

It's either something that wasn't in the Once Upon a Time book or a new book. I forget which.

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Knightfall

SEASON 7, EPISODE 13 • NEW

3/16/18, 8:00 PM ON WMARDT 2 • TV-PG • STEREO • CC • DVS

Rogers strikes a deal with Eloise despite Tilly's warning; Ivy struggles to find herself after Victoria's death; Hook confronts Capt. Ahab over a legendary magical talisman which can free Alice.

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Knightfall

Now I am back to wondering what is going on. Did Tilly/Alice kill the baker in the hospital room? I do not think so, but holding the scalpel looked suspicious. Also, there were two elimination marks on the pitchforks in her hideout.

How can Ivy think her mother “loved her all along”? I thought that happened during their final moments together when Victoria learned it was Ivy’s idea to float the candles so they would serve as a beacon. And is Anastasia hiding at Eloise’s home all of this time?

The flashback showed when a curse was put on Hook and Alice so they could not be close together. Hook protected his honor/reputation by participating in a duel with Ahab instead of rushing back to Alice and Gothel punished him. Personally, I think Gothel puts too much of a burden on people.

We do not see Rumple often and seeing him in that dingy prison is not satisfying.

I like the end scene between Roni and Lucy.

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It's been a while since we saw Rumplestiltskin looking silly. As he says, there's always a price for magic and it was a higher price than Hook wanted.

Ivy didn't think her mother loved her but after what she did, Ivy began to have doubts. It was nice of Henry to help her but it concerns me. Maybe it's Lucy's reaction to their being together after she learned Henry could die.

Is this Alice in Wonderland?

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Mar 20, 2018 14:04:06 GMT -5 KyleEl said:

It's been a while since we saw Rumplestiltskin looking silly. As he says, there's always a price for magic and it was a higher price than Hook wanted.

Ivy didn't think her mother loved her but after what she did, Ivy began to have doubts. It was nice of Henry to help her but it concerns me. Maybe it's Lucy's reaction to their being together after she learned Henry could die.

Is this Alice in Wonderland?

I do not understand the Alice story at all. I think it is supposed to be "Alice in Wonderland", but how would Hook fit into that story?

I think it is explained in the next episode.

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The Girl in the Tower

SEASON 7, EPISODE 14 • NEW
3/23/18, 8:00 PM ON WMARDT 2 • TV-PG • STEREO • CC • DVS

Rogers works to prove Tilly's innocence in the case of the Blind Baker's death; Ivy attempts to make amends with Anastasia; Samdi makes a revealing confession to Roni; in a faraway realm, Alice forms an unbreakable bond.

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Although we did not learn who killed the witches and framed Tilly, we learned more about Alice. On one of her birthdays, she made a wish for freedom and a giant troll appeared and whisked her out of the tower. Years later, the troll was being hunted by people who said he was destroying their village. (I cannot remember the name of the movie where a boy climbed onto the hand of a giant similar to the tower scene.)

Before present day, Alice was watching her father from a distance and was spotted by Robin (Hood), daughter of Zelena, who thought Alice was spying. During their conversations, it became clearer that OUAT’s take on the Alice in Wonderland story is that Alice was in Wonderland searching for a cure to rid her father of the broken heart curse. When this was referred to previously, it was confusing to me.

Robin realized Alice had magic and they used her magic to get away from angry villagers in a yellow Volkswagen reminiscent of Emma’s bug. Robin and Alice realized the troll was there to help her again on her birthday. Alice thanked the troll and he became the statue we have seen in Hyperion Heights.

In present day, there was a camera in the statue and Rogers was able to view the images to determine Tilly could not have been the killer. Rogers invited Tilly to stay with him and she accepted.

Roni invited Dr. Facilier to lunch to give Lucy a chance to look around his house. I was sure Lucy was going to get caught, but she escaped. However, she left her cap and Facilier took it to Roni. They had an interesting discussion and Roni really does like Facilier a lot.

I am personally glad that Ivy confirmed the mother-daughter love happened in the moment Victoria was dying. Anyway, Ivy is turning over a new leaf and wants to help people, particularly her sister, Anastasia.

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Alice talked to a Mad Hatter and a rabbit. Considering she was tapped in the tower, she sure seemed to be enjoying herself.

I really liked Tilly in this episode.

It was funny to see Robin in that realm with all this technology. Alice was amazed. So was I, because you'd think that phone would need recharging. I've also forgotten how Robin got there but she was arguing with her mother after a scene where she and her friends appeared to be witches in one of the other realms, and then the phone rang.

I was surprised Emma's bug would still run. It would have already been old when she arrived in Storybrooke, and how old is Robin? What year was it when she left Storybrooke? I was also amazed Robin didn't have to open the door for Alice. Never having seen a car, how would she know how the door works?

I was hoping Tilly would have an alibi. Since time of death would be estimated, I'm not sure how much the camera really helps, but it does, I guess.

I thought 2Pac had seen Lucy when he returned to his apartment prematurely, but if he did, he didn't say anything. And he knew that was her stuff and returned it.

I liked the reference to Zelena as a tornado. Though it was actually her sister who was in the tornado in the 1939 movie. Dorothy saw her transform from Mrs. Gulch on the bicycle to The Wicked Witch and then her house fell on her.

It's good to see Ivy being a good person for a change. I hope she and Henry don't end up together.