Jared won't miss any episodes

[percysowner]

From Spoiler TV

cadlymack Carina MacKenzie
#Supernatural fans, be assured: Jared will take some days off to meet his son (obv!), but he won't actually miss ANY episodes this season.

Yippee! This makes me feel better!

[Rose]

This is very relieving and reassuring. Thank you for posting, percy!

[shadowhund]

I am very selfish when I want to see Sam in all the episodes, but it is understandabke, that Jared will have some time with their little one, and boy, I am so excited for him and Gen and the little Padababy! I am really happy for Jared and I would give him even more time off from set.

But it is always a writer issue, how they write the episodes, and even with Jareds time off (bless him for the reason) to get the feeling of the brothers relationship/bond he doesn't need to be always onscreen, and now even with him being there, they can't write the brothers relationship, but we are blessed to have Jared and Jensen, and that's why they won the PCA and for their once unique brother relationship as their fictional characters. That feelings still counts.

When they would have written proper Sam material over the whole season and didn't hide Sam's issues and let the brothers actually really talk onscreen, not only shove one liners in Deans lines and only let Dean talk with others instead of his brother...and then something happens with Sam where he is knocked out for some time I would handle it. (but that did not happen, not at all)

They can bring a young Sam while real Sam is in a dream, or in a halucination, or Dean remembers something from their past, so this swings their connection through the episodes so even if Sam is dearly missed, there is something still there from him and that is working for me.

But right now Sam is there and nonetheless shoved to the side and in the background and I waited for Sam's return from hell and almost get nothing from himself, only from others, if we even get anything

[geordiegirl1967]

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

[maddiew2011]

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

I saw that. I'm Storm on IMDB by the way. It seems to gall some people that Jared is actually well liked loved by others in the business.

[MariaARIS3]

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

LOL, I went there to take a look out of curiosity! Don't tell me that you don't remember this person from the CW Lounge! A well know Sam/Jared hater! As for the others who supported her, well... no comments!

ETA: Two names are familiar form the Lounge as Sam haters!

[evilsquirre1]

Jan 30, 2012 22:35:29 GMT -5 percysowner said:

From Spoiler TV

cadlymack Carina MacKenzie
#Supernatural fans, be assured: Jared will take some days off to meet his son (obv!), but he won't actually miss ANY episodes this season.

Yippee! This makes me feel better!

I'm kind of bummed for him. He should take a month or so off to bond with his son. It's his first child. No offense because I love the show. But it's just a TV show. This is his family, it's more important then any job. But he is young as you age you realize what really matters in life. Your health and the health of your loved ones. Everything else is unimportant to that.

[geordiegirl1967]

Jan 31, 2012 16:29:06 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

LOL, I went there to take a look out of curiosity! Don't tell me that you don't remember this person from the CW Lounge! A well know Sam/Jared hater! As for the others who supported her, well... no comments!

ETA: Two names are familiar form the Lounge as Sam haters!

Actually I didnt remember them. Did they have the same name at CWL? Who is the other Sam hater you spotted?

[lemongrover]

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

Hey, geordiegirl1967!

I was over on IMDB and read that thread. It's gotten a little far out of hand, but I'm sorry that happened to you. I didn't think you were being "bitchy and condescending" about Jared. But IMDB is very pro-Dean, so it's not surprising that the posters ripped apart anything say about Jared that was positive. Like it's weird, because Jared and Jensen both do commentaries and joke around during them, but Jared is the immature one. Or the gag reels, which are littered with stuff, but in some you see Jensen doing more sexual jokes than Jared or messing up more, but Jared is the one who is unprofessional? Neither one of them are unprofessional, besides isn't the point of the gag reel to show mess up and unprofessional care-free fun side of the show? I think if either one of the actors were costing the studio money, then there would be a problem. But the pranking isn't constant mostly it's the same story told fifty times or the farting, which is the only negative thing that is ever said about Jared.

You don't hear about professionalism at conventions, because everyone is trying to make it funny. But if you were to tell them how their quotes were being used against the guys, I'm pretty sure a lot of the guest stars would be very upset, because you have heard about them talk about the guys being professional. But Just looking at the conventions, I would think that Jensen looks far more unprofessional because he stabbed a duck on stage for no real reason and he did that Harry and Sally thing. You don't see Jared pulling stunts like that, but does that mean that Jensen is less professional than Jared? Now, they would just say Jensen was being funny, but I don't think it was. But it's not a comment about his work ethic, just something that was uncomfortable to know about him.

Both of the guys are know for cutting up on set. I don't see why Jared has to be slammed for it, but since the poster did say that they don't like Jared, then it's not surprising to see why they keep pointing out why Jared is unprofessional. As for the interviews, a lot of times the guys are talked about as a unit, so they're both called professional good guys. But recently, Jensen is the one most guest stars are being asked about being of his directing or their past connections with him. But positive things are said about both of them. I'm sorry, but I'm rambling. I can't post there and I'm kind of glad, because I would lose my temper!

Anyway, I'm glad that they're giving Jared the time off especially since according to FMLA, they don't have too because I assume he isn't covered by that law in America (I don't think he is, which means they didn't have to give him this much time off). But I'm also glad he is still in each episode!

[windykl]

see i don't understand the hating on jared? i mean he is loyal to his castmates and to spn (even if i feel like he gets disrespected)...from everything i've read and the vids i've seen, he is extremely sweet to his fans...he takes time to really make people feel welcome and like he's known them forever....

lemongrover--i agree with ya.

[shadowhund]

lemongrover, welcome to this forum! Nice that you found your way to us from the former CWboards where I really liked to read your comments.

Thanks for this detailed explanation!

Is this really so much hateful towards Jared?

I don't understand that! I am glad that people are there who write something different then them, but I am not there and I won't go there.

I am just avoiding such places for good! Nonetheless I am glad that there is some neutrality in some posters comments, or that there are people who defending Jared, if this should even happen.

Why defending someone who doesn't do anything bad? Only good or mostly good things except the gas that is not his fault!

*shakes head*

[lemongrover]

shadowhund, thanks!! I'm glad I'm found this place too!! You guys were always so much nicer than anywhere else I've encountered!

I'm not sure why there is so much Jared hate. I think it's partly because it seems like that side of the fandom is more vocal, because of the Dean/Cas fans. But it could be because it stands out so much more than anything else. You know, it sounds like it's a lot that upsets us, so it stands out to us. Sometimes it's difficult to understand the difference between the majority and the ones who scream the loudest.

Still, I know there are times when I read something mean about some of the others actors on the show and I just giggle and move on. But when it comes to Jared and Jensen, I can't get it out of my mind especially Jared. I know it's because I've seen Jared take more hits than Jensen, but I don't like it when it happens to either one of them. I think that certain places in the fandom get too personal. Sometimes I have to take a step back and remind myself that they aren't even watching the show on a regular basis anymore, so I should think that's the norm for a Supernatural fan.

As for defending someone, some posters think that you're trying to tell them they're wrong instead of saying that it's unfair and untrue (which in a way is saying they're wrong, but not in "wrong, wrong, stupid" sense). When people take things out of context or distort, then it's probably going to be difficult to have any type of opinion around them, because their opinion is so firm that they are doing whatever they can to justify them to be true. Personally, I don't think there is much use in trying to have a conversation with a person who has made their mind up and just wants to put someone else down.

It's not fun, it's just upsetting. Especially, since both Jared and Jensen have proven their work ethic and professionalism by having a successful show, maintaining a contract that has been extended, and people asking for more. They're doing something right. It's not possible to be an actor or an actress without being professional. Because it's such a close-relation selective job. Plus, a lot of what happens on set is unprofessional like doing a sex scene or crying, so sets are a different environment. Long hours and emotional settings create a workplace that encourages a strong work ethic, but not with work-office professional strict regulations.

Most people who post online try to apply what is appropriate for their lives to what is appropriate to for the cast and crew. But seriously, you think the Cindy Sampson prank on Jensen in the 6th season gag reel would have been met with laughter in an office or a lawsuit? They live in their own world, which is why I think actors get so close with one another, they can understand what it is like.

[Mistermoonlight]

Jan 31, 2012 18:14:53 GMT -5 lemongrover said:

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

Hey, geordiegirl1967!

I was over on IMDB and read that thread. It's gotten a little far out of hand, but I'm sorry that happened to you. I didn't think you were being "bitchy and condescending" about Jared. But IMDB is very pro-Dean, so it's not surprising that the posters ripped apart anything say about Jared that was positive. Like it's weird, because Jared and Jensen both do commentaries and joke around during them, but Jared is the immature one. Or the gag reels, which are littered with stuff, but in some you see Jensen doing more sexual jokes than Jared or messing up more, but Jared is the one who is unprofessional? Neither one of them are unprofessional, besides isn't the point of the gag reel to show mess up and unprofessional care-free fun side of the show? I think if either one of the actors were costing the studio money, then there would be a problem. But the pranking isn't constant mostly it's the same story told fifty times or the farting, which is the only negative thing that is ever said about Jared.

You don't hear about professionalism at conventions, because everyone is trying to make it funny. But if you were to tell them how their quotes were being used against the guys, I'm pretty sure a lot of the guest stars would be very upset, because you have heard about them talk about the guys being professional. But Just looking at the conventions, I would think that Jensen looks far more unprofessional because he stabbed a duck on stage for no real reason and he did that Harry and Sally thing. You don't see Jared pulling stunts like that, but does that mean that Jensen is less professional than Jared? Now, they would just say Jensen was being funny, but I don't think it was. But it's not a comment about his work ethic, just something that was uncomfortable to know about him.

Both of the guys are know for cutting up on set. I don't see why Jared has to be slammed for it, but since the poster did say that they don't like Jared, then it's not surprising to see why they keep pointing out why Jared is unprofessional. As for the interviews, a lot of times the guys are talked about as a unit, so they're both called professional good guys. But recently, Jensen is the one most guest stars are being asked about being of his directing or their past connections with him. But positive things are said about both of them. I'm sorry, but I'm rambling. I can't post there and I'm kind of glad, because I would lose my temper!

Anyway, I'm glad that they're giving Jared the time off especially since according to FMLA, they don't have too because I assume he isn't covered by that law in America (I don't think he is, which means they didn't have to give him this much time off). But I'm also glad he is still in each episode!

LemonGrover, so awesome that you found us!

Welcome home!

[percysowner]

Jan 31, 2012 18:03:08 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

Jan 31, 2012 16:29:06 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

LOL, I went there to take a look out of curiosity! Don't tell me that you don't remember this person from the CW Lounge! A well know Sam/Jared hater! As for the others who supported her, well... no comments!

ETA: Two names are familiar form the Lounge as Sam haters!

Actually I didnt remember them. Did they have the same name at CWL? Who is the other Sam hater you spotted?

The original poster who slammed Sam did use the same name over at the old boards. I had here on ignore over there and I put her on Ignore just a few days ago during the "Why do people hate Sera Gamble so much?" thread. She was doing the same thing on that thread, stating that SG is a "little dictator" who hates Jensen and is a bad person. I put her on Ignore and then thought "This feels familiar" and realized that yes, she was just as bad on the old board. I'll have to look at her supporters to see if I recognize their names.

[maddiew2011]

Jan 31, 2012 18:14:53 GMT -5 lemongrover said:

Jan 31, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

I posted the same thing on another board only to find myself having to defend Jared from a poster who doesn't like him as a person and doesn't think he and Jensen are friends. I got accused of being 'bitchy and condescending' when I pointed out that you never hear a bad word about Jared from anyone who has met him. Hey ho. The perils of life on the boards.

Hey, geordiegirl1967!

I was over on IMDB and read that thread. It's gotten a little far out of hand, but I'm sorry that happened to you. I didn't think you were being "bitchy and condescending" about Jared. But IMDB is very pro-Dean, so it's not surprising that the posters ripped apart anything say about Jared that was positive. Like it's weird, because Jared and Jensen both do commentaries and joke around during them, but Jared is the immature one. Or the gag reels, which are littered with stuff, but in some you see Jensen doing more sexual jokes than Jared or messing up more, but Jared is the one who is unprofessional? Neither one of them are unprofessional, besides isn't the point of the gag reel to show mess up and unprofessional care-free fun side of the show? I think if either one of the actors were costing the studio money, then there would be a problem. But the pranking isn't constant mostly it's the same story told fifty times or the farting, which is the only negative thing that is ever said about Jared.

You don't hear about professionalism at conventions, because everyone is trying to make it funny. But if you were to tell them how their quotes were being used against the guys, I'm pretty sure a lot of the guest stars would be very upset, because you have heard about them talk about the guys being professional. But Just looking at the conventions, I would think that Jensen looks far more unprofessional because he stabbed a duck on stage for no real reason and he did that Harry and Sally thing. You don't see Jared pulling stunts like that, but does that mean that Jensen is less professional than Jared? Now, they would just say Jensen was being funny, but I don't think it was. But it's not a comment about his work ethic, just something that was uncomfortable to know about him.

Both of the guys are know for cutting up on set. I don't see why Jared has to be slammed for it, but since the poster did say that they don't like Jared, then it's not surprising to see why they keep pointing out why Jared is unprofessional. As for the interviews, a lot of times the guys are talked about as a unit, so they're both called professional good guys. But recently, Jensen is the one most guest stars are being asked about being of his directing or their past connections with him. But positive things are said about both of them. I'm sorry, but I'm rambling. I can't post there and I'm kind of glad, because I would lose my temper!

Anyway, I'm glad that they're giving Jared the time off especially since according to FMLA, they don't have too because I assume he isn't covered by that law in America (I don't think he is, which means they didn't have to give him this much time off). But I'm also glad he is still in each episode!

I agree lemongrover. I put that idiot poster on IMDB on ignore. She pissed me off so bad. What's really pathetic is that hse and her supportes are so desperate to believe that Jared is this awful person and that Jared and Jensen aren't friends.

[windykl]

Jan 31, 2012 20:28:07 GMT -5 @maddiew2011 said:

Jan 31, 2012 18:14:53 GMT -5 lemongrover said:

Hey, geordiegirl1967!

I was over on IMDB and read that thread. It's gotten a little far out of hand, but I'm sorry that happened to you. I didn't think you were being "bitchy and condescending" about Jared. But IMDB is very pro-Dean, so it's not surprising that the posters ripped apart anything say about Jared that was positive. Like it's weird, because Jared and Jensen both do commentaries and joke around during them, but Jared is the immature one. Or the gag reels, which are littered with stuff, but in some you see Jensen doing more sexual jokes than Jared or messing up more, but Jared is the one who is unprofessional? Neither one of them are unprofessional, besides isn't the point of the gag reel to show mess up and unprofessional care-free fun side of the show? I think if either one of the actors were costing the studio money, then there would be a problem. But the pranking isn't constant mostly it's the same story told fifty times or the farting, which is the only negative thing that is ever said about Jared.

You don't hear about professionalism at conventions, because everyone is trying to make it funny. But if you were to tell them how their quotes were being used against the guys, I'm pretty sure a lot of the guest stars would be very upset, because you have heard about them talk about the guys being professional. But Just looking at the conventions, I would think that Jensen looks far more unprofessional because he stabbed a duck on stage for no real reason and he did that Harry and Sally thing. You don't see Jared pulling stunts like that, but does that mean that Jensen is less professional than Jared? Now, they would just say Jensen was being funny, but I don't think it was. But it's not a comment about his work ethic, just something that was uncomfortable to know about him.

Both of the guys are know for cutting up on set. I don't see why Jared has to be slammed for it, but since the poster did say that they don't like Jared, then it's not surprising to see why they keep pointing out why Jared is unprofessional. As for the interviews, a lot of times the guys are talked about as a unit, so they're both called professional good guys. But recently, Jensen is the one most guest stars are being asked about being of his directing or their past connections with him. But positive things are said about both of them. I'm sorry, but I'm rambling. I can't post there and I'm kind of glad, because I would lose my temper!

Anyway, I'm glad that they're giving Jared the time off especially since according to FMLA, they don't have too because I assume he isn't covered by that law in America (I don't think he is, which means they didn't have to give him this much time off). But I'm also glad he is still in each episode!

I agree lemongrover. I put that idiot poster on IMDB on ignore. She pissed me off so bad. What's really pathetic is that hse and her supportes are so desperate to believe that Jared is this awful person and that Jared and Jensen aren't friends.

i don't know how anyone can think jared is awful? that blows my mind!!! sometimes i feel so bad for jared what i love most is the way he handles things with class..

that poster sounds like the one from twitter. she's always hating on jared...

[zenezie]

Jan 31, 2012 20:17:16 GMT -5 lemongrover said:

You know, it sounds like it's a lot that upsets us, so it stands out to us. Sometimes it's difficult to understand the difference between the majority and the ones who scream the loudest.

Absolutely. Over at YT the uber Cas fans are "crying" (their own words) that "everybody hates Cas", but it's not really the case, just couple commentators were generally criticizing his behavior and actions and not sugercoating or making off-screen rationalization excuses like the ubers. When the ubers were asked to give on-screen examples to back up their defense of Cas' actions they disappear from the debate. To any passionate fans, the few criticisms and/or hatred stands out like glaring beacons.

Got to remember the 20/80 principle: 20% of the people do all the work, 20% of the criminals commit 80% of the crime, 20% makes the loudest noise while 80% majority are silent. Politicians are always trying to go after the 80% silent majority.

[DeanandSam]

Jan 31, 2012 21:29:12 GMT -5 zenezie said:

Jan 31, 2012 20:17:16 GMT -5 lemongrover said:

You know, it sounds like it's a lot that upsets us, so it stands out to us. Sometimes it's difficult to understand the difference between the majority and the ones who scream the loudest.

Absolutely. Over at YT the uber Cas fans are "crying" (their own words) that "everybody hates Cas", but it's not really the case, just couple commentators were generally criticizing his behavior and actions and not sugercoating or making off-screen rationalization excuses like the ubers. When the ubers were asked to give on-screen examples to back up their defense of Cas' actions they disappear from the debate. To any passionate fans, the few criticisms and/or hatred stands out like glaring beacons.

Got to remember the 20/80 principle: 20% of the people do all the work, 20% of the criminals commit 80% of the crime, 20% makes the loudest noise while 80% majority are silent. Politicians are always trying to go after the 80% silent majority.

That's what I don't understand. A fan is allowed to express a valid opinion about disliking a character without the fans of that character yelling at the person who expressed his or her opinion. I mean I see a lot of Dean and Sam hate, more Sam, I just skip it, that person is allowed to not like Sam and Dean, I don't understand why, but they are allowed. The majority of the Cas fans scream and shout the loudest, they also tend to include everybody in their demands, like, "Yes, we ALL love Castiel, we ALL want him back" In my head I would be like "B**** please! don't speak for me" I mean I don't write it to that person because I don't have accounts in other boards , I just view and read what other people think. But most Cas fans generalize all fans in their demands, and it's annoying to be frank.

[isitfridayyet]

Let's stay on topic shall we? This thread is about Jared...pretty sure. Not Casfans.

I'm glad he's at least getting a little time off. I wish he was able to get more. I'm sure Gen will need him, bless her heart, with a newborn! I'm torn though because wanting him to have more time off would mean less Sam which I would hate. Just trying not to be selfish. Sam needs the storyline development so badly though IMO. I just hope Jared isn't spread too thin between this and the baby.

As to those who hate on him...these are likely due to problems separating the actor from the character. Dislike for Sam could cause people to hunt for things they dislike about Jared. The reasons to dislike him are too silly to be anything else. I've found it to be true for me when thinking about Nicholas Cage. Hate his movies so I'm not too fond of him. I find things to poke at during his interviews that I know wouldn't bother me if I didn't hate his films. I just wish these Jared haters would recognize what they are doing and show a little self control. Saying ugly things about others just makes you yourself appear ugly. Say you don't care for the person and move on.

[MariaARIS3]

@friday, why do you get ticked off when people are discussing about some bad Cas fans? I'm sure that if you met them, you wouldn't be proud of them either. These specific posters happen to be Dean/Cas fans and they strongly dislike Sam/Jared. Almost all the people who hate Sam happen to like Cas (no doubt that they love Dean first) and would love to see him replacing him. These are simple facts. What's wrong with stating them?

Jan 31, 2012 17:10:28 GMT -5 evilsquirre1 said:

I'm kind of bummed for him. He should take a month or so off to bond with his son. It's his first child. No offense because I love the show. But it's just a TV show. This is his family, it's more important then any job. But he is young as you age you realize what really matters in life. Your health and the health of your loved ones. Everything else is unimportant to that.

I don't think that anyone would ever considering putting his/her job or carreer above their family (well OK, some people might do, but even they don't realize it... You know, someone who is absent from his/her home but they're actually doing it for the family or at least that's what they think)
Anyway, I don't think that Jared would ever have a dilemma about who to put first. But he is a professional actor. And he s involved in a show that has a lot of demands. It's not like it is his own business where he can come and go whenever he chooses it or he can even "shut down" his business for his own personal reasons.
Jared himself said that because the cast and crew are a big family he didn't even have to ask for those days, they immediately gave them to him. And I'm sure that they gave him the most they could. They have a very specific schedule for filming and I'm sure the network wouldn't appreciate any delays.
It would be ideal for him, Gen and the baby to be able to take a month off, but it is not up to him...
And btw, a month? Is there such a place where daddies can have a month off because of a baby? Hubby only got five working days for each of our kids!

[isitfridayyet]

Not disagreeing with you Maria. It just seems that every thread heads towards a negative area where Castiel, his fans, or Misha are discussed. Not arguing that there's anything incorrect in what you or others said, but it would just be nice to read a thread where these issues aren't drug out. There is a CSS thread to discuss it and one could easily make a diff thread to talk about it so I could avoid it. I'm aware that anyone can post what they like where they like, but if you take a look at almost all the threads, you'll find that what I'm saying is true. It makes it less fun to post with others when I constantly feel like I should be defending myself as a Cas fan and remind that I like both brothers and do not hate Sam or Jared so I can feel welcome to discuss the actual topic in the thread.

[MariaARIS3]

Feb 1, 2012 2:06:21 GMT -5 isitfridayyet said:

Not disagreeing with you Maria. It just seems that every thread heads towards a negative area where Castiel, his fans, or Misha are discussed. Not arguing that there's anything incorrect in what you or others said, but it would just be nice to read a thread where these issues aren't drug out. There is a CSS thread to discuss it and one could easily make a diff thread to talk about it so I could avoid it. I'm aware that anyone can post what they like where they like, but if you take a look at almost all the threads, you'll find that what I'm saying is true. It makes it less fun to post with others when I constantly feel like I should be defending myself as a Cas fan and remind that I like both brothers and do not hate Sam or Jared so I can feel welcome to discuss the actual topic in the thread.

I get it. I'm sure that I've done this quite a few times myself. But I don't think it's intentional... conversations can get out of topic in every thread and not only about Cas... It's just that, since Cas -like it or not (I know you like it!)- is apart of the show and since his character is so much controversial, inevitably he will be discussed more and not always in a pleasant way.
I want to think that things are not that bad here to turn the Cas fans away. Reading different opinions is interesting, having debates is interesting and so far, I think we have managed to keep fights away. We have already been banging heads with each other (take for example the "abuse" thread), I know I did with a few people! but I'm really enjoying these kind of debates! ;D
Come on, you're a positive person, don't let it take you down!

[shadowhund]

I've found it to be true for me when thinking about Nicholas Cage. Hate his movies so I'm not too fond of him. I find things to poke at during his interviews that I know wouldn't bother me if I didn't hate his films. I just wish these Jared haters would recognize what they are doing and show a little self control. Saying ugly things about others just makes you yourself appear ugly. Say you don't care for the person and move on.

isitfridayyet,

You don't like Nicholas Cage too? I don't know anything about him and I even don't want to watch the movies with him. When I see him per coincidence I cringe and search in other channels. I simply don't like to see him. Maybe he is a deep thinker, a great human being, but I just don't want to know and I am not interested.

With Jared its different. When someone is not liking him because he is playing Sam, the brother of Dean in a series which is about (2) brothers, the family, their (close!) relationship, if I wouldn't like to see him, I wouldn't watch from the getgo. Its also with Jensen, if I would feel reluctant (!) by watching him playing Dean, I think I would have not found the connection from the brothers and I wouldn't be a follower, fan, viewer anymore! that's so simple for me!

I can only imagine that those people are jealous that Jared got back then the role for Sam instead of Jensen, and now they make Jared every possible way down, and of course Sam (even more). They wanted badlyso so badly a myth arc for their favorite and didn't get it! I think that's really the crux! I may be wrong about that, but for me its very clear!

Jared is such a giver, a sweet person, someone who gives all of him for the fans. He appreciates us, and says it over and over again.

[evilsquirre1]

I never understood pick Cas or Dean or Sam and picking on that other. We are lucky to have 3 very good looking and talented actors. 3 interest and well written characters. Why limit yourself to being only a fan of one. I hope Cas comes back and all 3 take off their shirts to celebrate. But hey if you don't want that because you don't like Cas or you don't like Sam. Then I say to you "Mais fica." I'm Portuguese this means: "more for me". Basically we are saying in you don't like something that is excellent because that means there is more for me to enjoy.

[CaptainBill]

Feb 1, 2012 1:42:32 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

Jan 31, 2012 17:10:28 GMT -5 evilsquirre1 said:

I'm kind of bummed for him. He should take a month or so off to bond with his son.

And btw, a month? Is there such a place where daddies can have a month off because of a baby? Hubby only got five working days for each of our kids!

I know! I only got 3 working days for each of my girls and their mother got 2 weeks off. Where is this fantastical place where daddies can get a whole month off?!?! WHERE!?!?
Jared is one half of a successful show whose mytharc is built around his character, no way in heck are they going to let him stay away very long no matter how "family" they all are.

It looked like people were panicking at the mere thought of a Sam-less episode and therefore the assurance from Spoiler.Tv Wonder if the recent public appearances by Jared were meant to calm the restless natives.

[shadowhund]

Well its not about Castiel. This show is not about an angel, and never will.

Good looking guys are always there, for example Brady. He was one good looking guy too! But he doesn't come back because he is good looking! He doesn't come back, because he was a demon, he was connected to Sam and Sam killed him in the end!

Castiel is just another demon with wings, was partly involved in the brothers destiny, manipulated this destiny to his and his superiors advantage and in the end risked Sam's sanity for nothing. He is not only a demon with wings also not a good thinker!

I think there a tons of good looking actors outside and also in Supernatural. No reason to bring them constantly back only because they are good looking, like I already mentioned.

So I see it a little different than you to bring him just back because he can expose his body and some girls and women and men are screaming. The show is not about this, and I prefer to see the character gone, like Brady and others are gone too and the show can reach to its heart again!

Maybe its refreshing and enlightening to look more at physical attributes of those actors from Supernatural, I enjoy them too but its only a little detail not the important part of SPN!

And I think the show has two leads and not more, all the others are supporting characters, some of them appear only one time others come more. Castiels time in the series is already out of date and nonetheless they press that being in episodes were it should be FINALLY all about Sam!

If Brady would have been an angel, we would have had the same problems, because ....you know .....to be angelic is cool ::)even the writers told those fans and us what this being did to the brothers and ....especially to Sam and nonetheless there is an outcry of some people. I am not impressed with the character!

[evilsquirre1]

Feb 1, 2012 10:18:27 GMT -5 CaptainBill said:

Feb 1, 2012 1:42:32 GMT -5 MariaARIS3 said:

And btw, a month? Is there such a place where daddies can have a month off because of a baby? Hubby only got five working days for each of our kids!

I know! I only got 3 working days for each of my girls and their mother got 2 weeks off. Where is this fantastical place where daddies can get a whole month off?!?! WHERE!?!?
Jared is one half of a successful show whose mytharc is built around his character, no way in heck are they going to let him stay away very long no matter how "family" they all are.

It looked like people were panicking at the mere thought of a Sam-less episode and therefore the assurance from Spoiler.Tv Wonder if the recent public appearances by Jared were meant to calm the restless natives.

You caught me I don't have kids so I have no clue have much time you get off after you have a baby. Sometimes we fans need to chill out and relax. Let the man have his first child without going off the rails. Here the deal I'm going to a Con next month. If Gen has her baby Jared might not be an the Con. My reaction, I completely understand and will not throw an kind of fit.

[Cinca]

That's reassuring. My selfish side was worried we get Sam-less episodes. Though naturally I am thrilled for him that he gets to have some time off to spend with his family and the newborn baby.

And it's nice to hear definitely nice that he didn't have to ask for it. In respone to earlyier comments, while he is one of the main actors of the shows, he is jus an actor who is needed. Like someone before me said, he can't choose when he wants to take time off and how much time he wants off. That is up to the producers and the writers to arrange.

And as far as Jared haters are concerned, I learnt not to take them seriously. They don't represent the fandom, have no proof to back up their statements, therefor not worth my time.

[geordiegirl1967]

Feb 1, 2012 13:01:09 GMT -5 @ohleesa said:

The females at my job only get about a 6 weeks off-and they're actually having the baby. The men get a couple of weeks. I think it should be more but this is the US health care system. I believe women get an extra 2 weeks if they have a C-section

Seriously? In the UK you can have up to (I think) 3 months off on full pay by law, but many employers give more. At my work you get 6 months on full pay and can have up to a year off in total. Men are allowed 2 weeks paternity leave.

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 1, 2012 13:17:04 GMT -5 @ohleesa said:

Feb 1, 2012 13:07:59 GMT -5 geordiegirl1967 said:

Seriously? In the UK you can have up to (I think) 3 months off on full pay by law, but many employers give more. At my work you get 6 months on full pay and can have up to a year off in total. Men are allowed 2 weeks paternity leave.

Yep! And if you adopt it's only 2 weeks for each parent. You can get up to 12 weeks unpaid using Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) but as you can guess most people can't afford unpaid time.

You can go out on temporary disability in PA for like 6 months as well.