DeanandSam
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Post by DeanandSam on Feb 14, 2012 0:43:57 GMT -5
I recently read a report where Jared shared that he could have had a role as Bruce's son in a new Die Hard movie, but had to turn it down for a possibility (I think it's for sure) of a season 8. I love this show as much as the next person, but I don't love the WHOLE show, I love part of it and that part is Jared and Jensen and the character they play, but I am admitting that the direction of the show is taking a turn that doesn't do anything for me. So as much as I am proud that Jared is dedicated to this show until the end I am also kind of sad that I won't see him in any other roles anytime soon. Selfishly, I kind of wish he didn't sign on for another season and took this role in die hard *runs away*
So, fans, are you guys ready to see your favorite actors in new roles and playing new fresh characters? or am I the only one?
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Aeryn
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 14, 2012 1:33:53 GMT -5
You're the only one.
*physically assaults OP*
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 14, 2012 1:35:33 GMT -5
Admittedly, I'm a little selfish in the fact that I want the show to continue but I'm glad to hear that the boys ARE being offered roles so that we can still see them on our TVs when it does end. I think that was a wonderful opportunity and I'm a little sad that Jared had to turn it down. Still, I'm confident that J2's careers will not end with Supernatural. They are far too talented. For me, there are far more gems in this season than season 6. Honestly, season 6 was an epic fail IMO. The ONLY thing I liked about it really was that Misha/Castiel was involved, but I HATED what they did to his character. Going along with that, I have to say the ONLY things I don't like about season 7 are the absence of Castiel/Misha, and the lack of a major storyline. The leviathans are a little underwhelming and that story seems to be at a dead end right now. I also think the writers are running out of ideas on arcs for Dean. Don't throw shit at me, but I'm getting pretty bored with his constant angsting. The only redemption for me would be that MAYBE after all of this, bad ass hunter Dean who loves his job will return. I'm really excited to see what they do with Sam's arc because the breaking of the wall was pretty anticlimatic IMO. 7.2 was AWESOME...and then hes....fine? I'm holding out hope that Sam's trip to the loony bin will make up for all of that dead air. Also...Castiel is returning. Be still my thumping fangirl heart! :heart: SO..I'm loving season 7. It's much better than season 6 IMO, so I think season 8 has the potential to be awesome. It seems that the writers still have more in them for us. I think one more season would be great. Then, I'd love to see the boys in other roles and I'd LOVE to see them back on the big screen. They're ready..and we'll be here to support!
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Lostcause
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Post by Lostcause on Feb 14, 2012 4:44:43 GMT -5
I think they would stay Sam and Dean for a long while after going on to something else.
Then again the longer they stay on SPN, the longer that image will linger afterwards. I had the same with Hugo Weaving after the matrix, for a good deal of time, and Harrison Ford is still Indy first and foremost!
Still, I'd like to see them change that first view impression in me and broaden their acting horizon.
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Post by anicat on Feb 14, 2012 5:35:55 GMT -5
I think they would stay Sam and Dean for a long while after going on to something else. Then again the longer they stay on SPN, the longer that image will linger afterwards. I had the same with Hugo Weaving after the matrix, for a good deal of time, and Harrison Ford is still Indy first and foremost! Still, I'd like to see them change that first view impression in me and broaden their acting horizon. That's why Christopher Eccleston didn't want to be the Doctor for more than one season. Once a Doctor, it's such an iconic and beloved role that the actors are forevermore associated with it...Chris minimized that by bowing out after that first year of the reboot. I mean, could I think of Tom Baker as anyone else BUT the Doctor? No, not really. David Tennant is forever my 10th Doctor....and J2 will always be - in my heart - Sam & Dean. Harrison Ford as Indy??? You mean Han Solo. ;D
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Post by 1027phoenix on Feb 14, 2012 9:11:11 GMT -5
No, DeanandSam, you're not the only one. I think it would have been an awesome role for Jared and great for his futur. However, I do know the boys are signed on for season 8, if there is one. For me, the jury is out on season 7. Depends upon what happens in the last 9 episodes. So far, I've not been overly impressed with the way the season has been laid out. I don't like that Cas is returning and taking attention away from the boys. If it was 1 episode and he was then gone, I would be able to handle it. If it extends beyond that, I will be VERY disappointed.
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Post by ravanne on Feb 14, 2012 9:33:51 GMT -5
It's one of the downsides of being on a successful television show (and I dare anyone to deny that SPN isn't successful after 7 seasons). The actors are very strictly limited on how much time they can give to outside projects, which unfortunately limits their abilities to be in large films like this. And unless you are a really big name (like Brad Pitt or George Clooney), you have to be available when the film is set to go into production. It's one of the considerations that went into chosing another actor over Jared for the Conan film (though in hindsight I'm glad they did because the film was a big ol' flop and I'm happy that Jared wasn't associated with it).
A film like Die Hard would mean a comittment of several months and Jared is already comitted to continuing with SPN and if he's being told that the odds are that there will be a season 8, then that ended the discussion. In a way I am sorry because this is just the latest of several film projects that Jared was apparently being seriously considered for that he needed to give up on because of the show and I know that he would not only excell in a role like this but it could launch a successful film career for him. It's becoming clear that Jared is being eyed for some pretty big budget projects and to a degree, the show is holding him back.
But Jared loves doing this show and has never wavered in his support for it and he understands that without him (or Jensen) there is no show and for a working actor, it's a very good gig. I don't doubt that there will be more film offers for Jared in the future and once SPN is over, he'll have the freedom to accept those opportunities. He's got a bright future as an actor ahead of him and the good reputation he's developed with his devotion to SPN will only serve him well.
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Post by pentadactyl on Feb 14, 2012 11:52:07 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not going to follow any of the actors to other projects.
I thoroughly appreciate the job they've done on this show. I can't speak to whether or not they're the best choices for the characters. It's too complex a question and I don't doubt that the characters would have been too different to compare in anyone else's hands. But let me say this instead, they've made the characters their own. They've given them life and personality and I have no complaints what so ever with the job they've done, any of them.
That said, when they leave Supernatural, that'll be it for me. Any future viewership will most likely be coincidental. With the exception of a few scattered episodes of Gilmore Girls, I've never watched anything any of them have been in. And I doubt that will change.
This isn't unique to the actors on this show. I just don't find the involvement of any actor to be a good indicator of whether or not I'll like the show or movie.
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Post by anicat on Feb 15, 2012 3:03:07 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not going to follow any of the actors to other projects. I thoroughly appreciate the job they've done on this show. I can't speak to whether or not they're the best choices for the characters. It's too complex a question and I don't doubt that the characters would have been too different to compare in anyone else's hands. But let me say this instead, they've made the characters their own. They've given them life and personality and I have no complaints what so ever with the job they've done, any of them. That said, when they leave Supernatural, that'll be it for me. Any future viewership will most likely be coincidental. With the exception of a few scattered episodes of Gilmore Girls, I've never watched anything any of them have been in. And I doubt that will change. This isn't unique to the actors on this show. I just don't find the involvement of any actor to be a good indicator of whether or not I'll like the show or movie. Really? That's the opposite of me. I will follow actors I like to other projects...even if it turns out that the story doesn't hold interest for me and I stop watching, the fact that I tuned in in the first place is because I wanted to see a favorite and familiar actor in the new role. Case in point: Alex O'Loughlin. I absolutely adored him in Moonlight, and when CBS *ptui* untimely cancelled the show, I followed him to that medical drama he starred in next. I only watched a couple episodes - no interest for me - but when I heard he was going to be the new McGarrett in Hawaii 5-0, I was right there back in front of my tv, anxiously and eagerly anticipating his new role. Success! And 10pm Monday is a must-see tv night for me: love for my most buff, sexy and amazing guy Alex. So wherever Jensen, Jared - and Misha! - go, I will follow.
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Post by zenezie on Feb 15, 2012 20:37:59 GMT -5
You're not the only one, even though I usually don't follow actors into their other roles mainly because 1) it's beneath them and 2) the movie roles are so infrequent that I lose interest. The advantage, if you can it that, of tv series especially when it's really well made at least we can see the actor almost every week for several months.
A movie career seems to favor actresses in their 20s and 30s and actors in their 30s and 40s. Jared and Jensen are at the right age for prime move careers, be it as character actors or leading roles after SPN ends. I'll be hard pressed to believe SPN will last beyond 2 more seasons.
No doubt about that. TV actors get reamed over the coals for showing "disloyalty" to a show even if the actors are right. I think it was Jim Beaver that said the last thing an actor wants to be known in Hollywood is "difficult" or "unprofessional", even if that reputation is undeserved; actors have so little power in that town.
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Lostcause
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Post by Lostcause on Feb 16, 2012 3:18:12 GMT -5
If I really like a show and follow it through several seasons, I'm certainly more enclined to give whatever new show or movie they do a try. Doesn't in any way mean I'll be sticking with it, but I'll be looking at the previews and story with more positive eyes.
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Post by ravanne on Feb 16, 2012 12:40:41 GMT -5
No doubt about that. TV actors get reamed over the coals for showing "disloyalty" to a show even if the actors are right. I think it was Jim Beaver that said the last thing an actor wants to be known in Hollywood is "difficult" or "unprofessional", even if that reputation is undeserved; actors have so little power in that town. If you are a huge name, like Tom Cruise level huge, you can get out of projects more easily. But when you consider that actors are only one part of a huge production machine, and that an actor disrupting a production can cost millions, it's understandable why leaving a show can sometimes sink careers. There are plenty of actors who leave highly successful shows becasue they think they can do better, only to find their careers going nowhere fast. Look at what happened to David Caruso - he left NYPD Blue four episodes into the second season (after winning a Golden Globe for his work on the show) and he nearly destroyed his career. He never took off as a film leading man and after showing in a number of well-publicised flops, went back to TV. He spent years rebuilding his career after burning his bridges on NYPD Blue. I personally think that Jared is exceptionally talented and has enormous potential to take on a serious film career. But I'm also realistic about the fact that he's one of thousands of TV actors who want to make the jump, he's got a show now that pays him very well and that's garnered him not only good work, but a loyal fanbase. And now that he's about to become a father, he needs to be concerned with working steadily. There are all kinds of considerations about taking on projects and for now, SPN is a good match for Jared. He genuinely enjoys his work on the show, gets along well with his castmates and production crew. Why should he toss that away?
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Post by anicat on Feb 16, 2012 14:46:06 GMT -5
If you are a huge name, like Tom Cruise level huge, you can get out of projects more easily. But when you consider that actors are only one part of a huge production machine, and that an actor disrupting a production can cost millions, it's understandable why leaving a show can sometimes sink careers. There are plenty of actors who leave highly successful shows becasue they think they can do better, only to find their careers going nowhere fast. Look at what happened to David Caruso - he left NYPD Blue four episodes into the second season (after winning a Golden Globe for his work on the show) and he nearly destroyed his career. He never took off as a film leading man and after showing in a number of well-publicised flops, went back to TV. He spent years rebuilding his career after burning his bridges on NYPD Blue. I personally think that Jared is exceptionally talented and has enormous potential to take on a serious film career. But I'm also realistic about the fact that he's one of thousands of TV actors who want to make the jump, he's got a show now that pays him very well and that's garnered him not only good work, but a loyal fanbase. And now that he's about to become a father, he needs to be concerned with working steadily. There are all kinds of considerations about taking on projects and for now, SPN is a good match for Jared. He genuinely enjoys his work on the show, gets along well with his castmates and production crew. Why should he toss that away? All of this. Acting is a job like any other job, except maybe that for them they've always had heavy competition for each single opening where because of the recession most work is that way now. If you are steadily employed and enjoy the work and the environment, it would be silly to toss it all for a *chance* at something different. Or even if it is a guaranteed role in a movie, that work only lasts so long and then it's back out there scrapping for parts again. There's only a few cases of an actor leaving a role and then a few seasons/years later returning...but that's an exception to the rule for sure. I think Jared is best off continuing what he loves to do where he loves to do it...it is a very fortunate - and stable - position in an industry where shows get pulled all the time, some not even given a chance to make it out of pilot form, let alone a couple of actual on-air episodes. But when SPN finally does wrap for good...I will be following Jared off to whatever he does next. Big screen, small screen: I'll be watching.
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Post by zenezie on Feb 19, 2012 0:52:37 GMT -5
I think Jared is best off continuing what he loves to do where he loves to do it... it is a very fortunate - and stable - position in an industry where shows get pulled all the time, some not even given a chance to make it out of pilot form, let alone a couple of actual on-air episodes. But when SPN finally does wrap for good...I will be following Jared off to whatever he does next. Big screen, small screen: I'll be watching. It boggles the mind that highly rated shows gets pulled all the time for anything from not reaching the "desired demographics" (whatever the hell that means) to bruised egos between the creator and the network i.e Angel's rating was in the upswing when WB suddenly pulled the plug, allegedly because Weldon was not playing nice. The series ended so abruptly that my (ex) boyfriend to this day is convinced Buffy rode in on a giant butterfly to save Angel and the crew from the dragon.
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Post by anicat on Feb 19, 2012 1:33:08 GMT -5
It boggles the mind that highly rated shows gets pulled all the time for anything from not reaching the "desired demographics" (whatever the hell that means) to bruised egos between the creator and the network i.e Angel's rating was in the upswing when WB suddenly pulled the plug, allegedly because Weldon was not playing nice. The series ended so abruptly that my (ex) boyfriend to this day is convinced Buffy rode in on a giant butterfly to save Angel and the crew from the dragon. Stranger things could and did happen on Angel/Buffy. ;D I felt so ticked at CBS for cancelling Moonlight (when it was doing fine in the ratings and even won the "New Drama" PCA) that I was motivated to send out my first email plea to a network, and signed online petitions. And even as happy as I am now to have Alex O'Louglin in his new role on Hawaii 5-0, I will be forever sad that there was so much more of Mick St John's story to tell and it will never happen. And don't even get me started on Firefly...grrrrrrr
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Post by ravanne on Feb 19, 2012 10:17:11 GMT -5
Firefly was probably the most egregious examples of a network deliberately murdering a viable show that I've ever seen.
I get irritated when I see fans posting comments that they wish that SPN would get canceled so their favorite actor can go on to better things. This is something I've seen a lot on TWOP, especially by Jensen fans who feel that he's not being given the respect he deserves, or that his character isn't being written they way they like. I think that these fans are doing the actors a great disservice. We might think the world of these actors, but the reality is that they are exceptionally lucky young men. They landed on a show that has managed to survive seven seasons, given them a lot of attention and fan loyalty as well as working on a set that they genuinely enjoy.
And the simple fact remains that going on to "better" things is in no way guaranteed. The entertainment industry is loaded with performers that had a successful show and then were never heard from again. We can argue which of the two has the most potential to go on to a film career after SPN (though I will argue that it's Jared if only because there have been so many projects that we have heard him being seriously considered for), but the fact is that both Jared and Jensen are very, very lucky to have SPN. And I'm glad that they're both secure enough to want to ride out the show until the end.
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 19, 2012 17:55:03 GMT -5
You're not the only one... Yes she is.
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Post by zenezie on Feb 20, 2012 19:27:53 GMT -5
And the simple fact remains that going on to "better" things is in no way guaranteed. The entertainment industry is loaded with performers that had a successful show and then were never heard from again. We can argue which of the two has the most potential to go on to a film career after SPN (though I will argue that it's Jared if only because there have been so many projects that we have heard him being seriously considered for), but the fact is that both Jared and Jensen are very, very lucky to have SPN. And I'm glad that they're both secure enough to want to ride out the show until the end. I'm always wondering "where are they now?" regarding popular actors who seem to have vanished off the face of the earth after their tv show ends and I'm just too lazy to google them. You're absolutely right, Ravanne (as always!), we think the world of Jensen and Jared but Hollywood is saturated with talented good looking actors and everybody, even the well established movie stars, fight eachother for scraps. Jody Foster said after winning her second Oscar that the award guarantees her work for up to two years and that's pretty much it.
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