2012 Presidential Election

[Mistermoonlight]

I mispelled the Republican candidate Mitt Romney's first name as 'Mitch', so we've deleted the previous thread, and are starting anew.

Almost makes me want to write in Mitch Ryder's name, though:



By the way, has anyone noticed how much Mitch Ryder and Bobby Qaurles from Justified resemble each other?

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[Aeryn]

You didn't have to delete the previous thread, you dork.

All you had to do was edit the title.

[Mistermoonlight]

As I explained in the recently deleted thread, although we can change thread titles, for some reason the actual listings in polls (where the 'Mitch' misspelling occured) are beyond anyone's ability to change. So, I offered to remake the thread with the proper spelling, if anyone wanted. SoCal asked for it, so I did.

By the way, if you decide you've made a mistake in the candidate you voted for in this poll, you can change it. So, see who gives you the most money, and adjust accordingly.

[Aeryn]

I wrote myself in as a candidate.

Nuke every enemy of the US. Kill the civilians too!!!

And I would authorize land mines along the border with Mexico.

I'd outlaw Kenny G, polyester, and blue eyeshadow.


VOTE FOR AERYN!!!!

[Mistermoonlight]

It's not like you to leave out those dastardly frostbacks up in Canada.

And what about the ones who try to surf into the US from the Atlantic and Pacific oceans?

[SoCal]

Why even have a country?

I vote we put the U.S. up for sale to the highest bidder. But, China may already own our ass.

[davidhayes1956]

Some billionaire just bought one of the Hawaiian islands for $500 million.

By the way, most of the National Debt is owed to the US ... particularly City and state governments that have surpluses due to over taxation that they invested by buying government bonds. So the US owes itself almost half the national debt. If the government just decided not to pay itself back, we would have far less national debt.

[Mistermoonlight]

I have been sadly mistaken, and am kneeling even now to try and make things right. It seems that mispelling 'Mitt' was not the worst of my sins, as I have somehow ignored through my feeble mind to present the two foremost candidates for President this year.






Both of these candidates were recently asked questions about their birthplace in public gatherings by members of the media, the Tea Party, and unafiliated potential voters. All were, of course, incinerated on the spot.

I am trying to figure out a way to preserve my hide, serve them better by somehow voting for both the inevitable victor.

[davidhayes1956]

I wonder if Obama current campaign will involve "Saving Hope."

[mercurytheatre]

When the candidates tour America ....spending millions on their campaigns....what do they say to the homeless?

"Hey! Here's a sandwich!...Vote for me"

...?....

[Mistermoonlight]

The Republicans say 'get a job, ya bum!'

The Democrats say 'be my campaign manager.'

[SoCal]

Obama sucks.

[Aeryn]

Obama is a media whore, just like Clinton was.

[SoCal]

Oh, please. That's not going to work anymore.

Samuel Jackson: "I voted for Obama because he's black."

Chris Rock: "we ignore Barack's white half."

By the way.....it was a black writer for the L.A. Times who called Obama "Barack the Magic Negro," not Rush Limbaugh. He just seized upon it for satire.

Maybe you need to stop looking at the world through racist-colored glasses.

[Mistermoonlight]

Guess we'll see how the American public feels in a few months, but I did notice that in place of reason you only gave opinion.

[SoCal]

From the L.A. Times Editorial Page -- NOT Rush Limbaugh


Obama the 'Magic Negro'
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.
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By David Ehrenstein

L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.

March 19, 2007
AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

As might be expected, this figure is chiefly cinematic — embodied by such noted performers as Sidney Poitier, Morgan Freeman, Scatman Crothers, Michael Clarke Duncan, Will Smith and, most recently, Don Cheadle. And that's not to mention a certain basketball player whose very nickname is "Magic."

Poitier really poured on the "magic" in "Lilies of the Field" (for which he won a best actor Oscar) and "To Sir, With Love" (which, along with "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," made him a No. 1 box-office attraction). In these films, Poitier triumphs through yeoman service to his white benefactors. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is particularly striking in this regard, as it posits miscegenation without evoking sex. (Talk about magic!)

The same can't quite be said of Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy," "Seven" and the seemingly endless series of films in which he plays ersatz paterfamilias to a white woman bedeviled by a serial killer. But at least he survives, unlike Crothers in "The Shining," in which psychic premonitions inspire him to rescue a white family he barely knows and get killed for his trouble. This heart-tug trope is parodied in Gus Van Sant's "Elephant." The film's sole black student at a Columbine-like high school arrives in the midst of a slaughter, helps a girl escape and is immediately gunned down. See what helping the white man gets you?

And what does the white man get out of the bargain? That's a question asked by John Guare in "Six Degrees of Separation," his brilliant retelling of the true saga of David Hampton — a young, personable gay con man who in the 1980s passed himself off as the son of none other than the real Sidney Poitier. Though he started small, using the ruse to get into Studio 54, Hampton discovered that countless gullible, well-heeled New Yorkers, vulnerable to the Magic Negro myth, were only too eager to believe in his baroque fantasy. (One of the few who wasn't fooled was Andy Warhol, who was astonished his underlings believed Hampton's whoppers. Clearly Warhol had no need for the accouterment of interracial "goodwill.")

But the same can't be said of most white Americans, whose desire for a noble, healing Negro hasn't faded. That's where Obama comes in: as Poitier's "real" fake son.

The senator's famously stem-winding stump speeches have been drawing huge crowds to hear him talk of uniting rather than dividing. A praiseworthy goal. Consequently, even the mild criticisms thrown his way have been waved away, "magically." He used to smoke, but now he doesn't; he racked up a bunch of delinquent parking tickets, but he paid them all back with an apology. And hey, is looking good in a bathing suit a bad thing?

The only mud that momentarily stuck was criticism (white and black alike) concerning Obama's alleged "inauthenticty," as compared to such sterling examples of "genuine" blackness as Al Sharpton and Snoop Dogg. Speaking as an African American whose last name has led to his racial "credentials" being challenged — often several times a day — I know how pesky this sort of thing can be.

Obama's fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he's written in his two (count 'em) books, or even what he's actually said in those stem-winders. It's the way he's said it that counts the most. It's his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is "articulate." His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn't called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).

Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.
Copyright © 2007, Los Angeles Times

[davidhayes1956]

I guess a really smart President would appropriate $5 Trillion for a war on Al Kida, fake the war and use the money for health care and economic relief. Then it wouldn't be patriotic to protest using the money that way.

[Aeryn]

I found that picture of the Obama effigy at the end of a rope really offensive. I don't like Obama, but any photo of a black man hanging breaks my heart.

[KyleEl]

Should SoCal's post be allowed to have the entire article? On another site I go to the moderators delete most of the content and provide a link if there is one.

We do have to follow ProBoards' rules, after all, and I don't know if that is one.

[Mistermoonlight]

She gives proper attribution to the source, which is the important thing.

As far as I can tell it's up to the user as to how much or little of a story to include, although a direct link to the original story is always a good idea.

[Deleted]

Neither. Need strong democratic leader who doesn't back down to those old foggies who only care about the white rich

Jun 22, 2012 20:13:26 GMT -5 Mistermoonlight said:

The Republicans say 'get a job, ya bum!'

The Democrats say 'be my campaign manager.'

[Aeryn]

Jun 25, 2012 16:01:21 GMT -5 KyleEl said:

Should SoCal's post be allowed to have the entire article? On another site I go to the moderators delete most of the content and provide a link if there is one.

We do have to follow ProBoards' rules, after all, and I don't know if that is one.

1. That's another site, not this one.
2. I don't see many people complaining about your delightfully boring, long-winded posts.
3. This isn't harrassment, just an observation.

[KyleEl]

Jun 25, 2012 19:17:09 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

Jun 25, 2012 16:01:21 GMT -5 KyleEl said:

Should SoCal's post be allowed to have the entire article? On another site I go to the moderators delete most of the content and provide a link if there is one.

We do have to follow ProBoards' rules, after all, and I don't know if that is one.

1. That's another site, not this one.
2. I don't see many people complaining about your delightfully boring, long-winded posts.
3. This isn't harrassment, just an observation.

My posts aren't copyrighted.

On one of Mike Huckabee's three-minute commentaries he compared Obama to a toaster. People would rather have a toaster, because it is actually capable of promising change AND delivering.

[davidhayes1956]

I was promised change and I certainly got change! A few years ago I had a wad of currency in my pockets ... now all I have IS change!

[SoCal]

My hope is that we change who occupies the oval office in November.
This guy has already turned into Nixon, now he's trying on Marx's meat suit.

[SoCal]

This guy has got to go.

[ashley]

Obama a socialist, but I hate Romney too

[KyleEl]

During one thirty-minute episode of "Jeopardy" I saw three different commercials where Obama said, "The private sector is doing fine."

In one of them, an angry man says, "The private sector is not doing fine."

Another has a female voice.

And Romney approved one of the three but I forget which one.

[davidhayes1956]

The private sector is coming along ... just like someone who came into the ER with a broken leg, he isn't great the next week but the leg has been set and something is being done to make the healing continue.

I just saw an article today that Romney ran a company for well over a decade that made its money (and a lot of it) by approaching US firms and convincing them of the advantages of outsourcing jobs to Asia. Then he says that if he is elected President, that kind of thing would stop. Why? Because he can't handle both jobs at once -- trying to fix our economy and outsourcing US jobs for his personal financial gain?

On Facebook, I asked what good option to Obama have we been given. The reply was that ANYONE could do a better job! I posted Really? Al Sharpton, Bernie Madoff, Paris Hilton? Maybe Lindsay Lohan would have an insider's take on healthcare from being in rehab so often. If you adjust today's dollars to compare to 1930's dollars, has Obama really spent more to keep us out of a depression than 1930s America spent pulling us out of one? Why would anyone in their right mind want that job? Maybe no one in their right mind does.

[SoCal]

Ya know....as far as I know, one of two men will be elected in November. I will not vote for Barry Sotero. He's a marxist/socialist.