The Orville

[KyleEl]

The makeup process for Moclans:

http://instagram.com/p/Bsm6tWzg0d4

Also, on the site where I saw this there is a lot of anger over the fact that all Moclans seem to be played by black men.

[skylander]

Feb 21, 2019 14:42:57 GMT -5 KyleEl said:

The makeup process for Moclans:

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Also, on the site where I saw this there is a lot of anger over the fact that all Moclans seem to be played by black men.

Are they angry because the Moclan (black men) culture is portrayed in an extremely negative manner?

I enjoyed watching the make-up video.

[avp60685]

The make-up video was cool, it is so impressive how detailed these artists can be in creating something that technically doesn't exist but to make it seem like it does!

I love the behind-the-scenes footage on things, it is one of the things I love to check out on DVDs.

[avp60685]

Thoughts on Identity Part 1:

This episode starts out looking like it definitely going to keep you on the edge of your seat with Isaac shutting down unexpectedly. What!? Is he okay? It was nice to see Claire's two sons again, they definitely are very close to Isaac and they seem almost like a normal family. The game they were playing gave me chess vibes at first but then I saw it was similar to Jenga, either way it looked cool yet complicated. Too bad Isaac is a bit of perfectionist when it comes to games.

The visuals of the home planet of Isaac's gave me Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones vibes. It definitely seems like a machine instead of your typical planet but the Kaylon are very guarded and definitely are hiding something from Ed and the rest of his crew. I loved how the Kaylon scanned the ship the way they did, it was definitely gave you the feel you were inside of a xerox-scanner unit.

The good-bye party that they gave Isaac was bittersweet, the singing by Gordon was a nice touch, I love Air Supply music but I don't seem to remember that song. The picture that Ty drew was so sweet and I nearly cried when Isaac just dropped in the corridor later as if it meant nothing to him. Uh-oh, is he going back to his artificial intelligence mode full mode now?

Ty seemed like an eager child to find out answers and ended up uncovering much more, uh-oh! So that's the Kaylon don't want to join the Union! And then the action really picks up from there, I got even more Star Wars vibes when the Kaylon took over the Orville, the Kaylon also gave me the original Battlestar Galactica vibes of the Cylons who took over and destroyed so much.

Ed doesn't look happy and he knows he needs to do act quickly in order to salvage his crew and his ship and hopefully warn the Union on Earth before they reach Earth. I hope he can because if not, everyone is doomed! I wonder how many crew members he lost by the Kaylon, I counted at least 10 members both men and women alike.

Poor Claire she is very angry and upset at the same time with Isaac, I mean I can't blame her in the least. I would feel hurt and betrayed too.

Next week should be really action packed, I can't wait to see what happens!

[KyleEl]

Feb 21, 2019 14:58:12 GMT -5 skylander said:

Are they angry because the Moclan (black men) culture is portrayed in an extremely negative manner?

That's one of the reasons.

www.gocomics.com/gilthorp/2019/02/22 (really a Star Trek reference)

[KyleEl]

I was worried about Isaac. It was sad that the kids liked him so much, even if he did insult them. Even with his lack of emotion, inability to understand human concepts and obsession with logic, we all liked him.

They gave him a good-bye party which was nice.

And now we find out this about him? If they made him think he had been doing what they wanted all along, that's one thing. I figure they could have made that change when they were bringing him back. But if he deceived everyone, I just can't excuse that. I would have been happy if he had protested that he was not told that's why they sent him to The Orville.

Contacting Earth is going to be a problem. With those Kaylon in control, just doing that is unlikely. But Ed told Bortus to contact The Union, yet he forgot he was warned they would be out of range and on their own.

I'm curious how Claire and her son climbed a tree in the simulator. That tree isn't real! I guess tables and chairs are the same way.

What they discovered was very disturbing.

The green blob was in the credits but I was disappointed we didn't see him. I was hoping he might save the day. I didn't bother to notice this was two parts but it was clear toward the end there would have to be a miracle.

[AntiArbitrator]

KyleEl Thanks for the review.

You made a good point that Issac might have been changed somewhat during the reboot. Otherwise, what he did would be awful.

[AntiArbitrator]

Identity, Part 2 - The doctor really needs to teach her boys to obey her before they get people killed.

[skylander]

My favorite episode. It is exciting and suspenseful. I was not sure who would survive, but I am happy with the way it ended. I loved seeing the ships go into warp drive and quantum drive. It was very exciting seeing it from Gordon and Kelly's view. The fight was visually stunning.

Yaphit was a hero.  Thank you Avis.  Thank you Isaac. (I thought Issac's name was taken from the Bible, but it was based on the scientist.) Ty, you did good. Bortus was a good shooter. Gordon was very funny, "The pee corner is looking pretty good right now." Gordon is also the best Helmsman a captain could ask for.

[avp60685]

This was an amazing episode! The music was gorgeous it really held the suspense to the story. I really felt like I was watching a movie instead of an episode.

I was really surprised there wasn't a recap from the previous episode before this one started up, the episode started up as if they expected you to remember everything from the previous episode. The drama at the beginning was very intense, I was a little surprised seeing Ed carrying someone, I don't think I've ever actually seen Seth MacFarlane ever carry someone, if he has, I was not aware of it. Gordon was humorous as always in his comments but you could tell genuinely that he was trying to not show his fears.

Seeing Ed's reaction knowing that people were getting killed and that the Kaylon were merciless in their approach, it nearly made me cry but I know that he has matured quite a bit as Captain, he has really shown he is indeed the leader of all these people and he takes it seriously each and everyone on board the ship. I thought at first that the ship that had Marcos on would be successful but when the Kaylon said they knew what was up when they called out on the 13 button salute, I was like, uh-oh! Ed really was trying so hard not to cry but you could see it in his eyes, his deep brown eyes looked like they were sad and yet had a bit of anger as well.

The actions scenes were terrific and seeing Isaac turn to save the day, wow! I am not overly surprised by the origins of his name, I kinda suspected it when I first learned about Isaac, I kept saying that he was probably named after Isaac Newton. My jaw dropped when he helped save Ty and turn on his own kind. That was truly incredible! I literally felt like I was watching The Last Jedi scene where Rey and Kylo Ren turn on the Supreme Chancellor and his guards yet again when I watched that scene. Yaphit really helped save the day with his message to the Union plus traveling through the vents/corridors and I am glad we got to see Victor Garber as one of the admirals again. I was really impressed that Kelly and Gordon were successful in finding the Krill, I was so scared when he had told her that the shuttle could break apart, I was literally holding my breath hoping they would get to the Krill before the Kaylon got them.

The battle scenes were a bit intense on my eyes with all the blues and reds, it was really interesting seeing all the Union ships fighting and shooting, it made it hard to determine which was the Orville in the midst of it. When the Krill showed up just in the last moment (or so it seemed), it was nice to see that the Union were working side by side with the Krill. I thought was humorous to see Gordon in one of the Krill's fighters, it gave me Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope vibes during those scenes. I thought at first that Victor Garber's character had been killed each time Bortus mentioning another fatality of the Union ships but it was nice to see that he had survived.

I thought it was cool that Yaphit was able to revive Isaac but I didn't see him emerge after he helped 'jump-started up' Isaac again. I know that scene was pretty intense and it looked no one was in a huge hurry to hug him or show much emotion to Isaac.

It was brave of Ed to take on the responsibility of Isaac even though the Admiral was a bit hesitant which I can't blame him. The ending scene back on the ship with Claire talking to Isaac was bittersweet, I hope they can get back together and repair their relationship.

Next week looks good but not as good as this one.

[KyleEl]

I didn't think it was possible but this was a great episode.

A recap would have been nice. This is one of those cases where you almost need it.

Things seemed so hopeless and every solution seemed to fall apart.

I thought that 13 button idea would work. I knew what it was. So did the enemy.

All those Kaylon sounded like Isaac which was really confusing.

Isaac wasn't deserving of forgiveness because we never did find out that he really had the best of intentions and didn't know. I kept hoping we'd find out he had to pretend because the other Kaylon wouldn't tolerate his opposing them, as they eventually didn't. he was a hero, and I was surprised he turned on them.

The other site where they discuss this show will surely have something about this. They're tech experts over there, or at least people who get help from them. Why did Isaac's solution put the Kaylon out of commission but not affect the ship's other electronics? An EMP is what happened in "Revolution".

I had confidence Kelly and Gordon would be all right. They're major characters. But when I heard life support would have to be turned off, I knew that would be a problem. They were lucky.

I thought surely the Krill were helping out when they arrived near Earth. But I guess they were still needed.

Yaphit finally accomplished something important.

I was pleased at Ed's solution for using Isaac. He's really good at his job and he cares about the people on the ship.

[KyleEl]

On another site I didn't see as much complaining about the EMP as I expected, but one person said the ship's electronics would have been protected by it, while the Kaylon were too conceited to think they would need such protection.

The point was also made that Isaac was different from other Kaylon because he was made by Kaylon, not biologicals.

[KyleEl]

On "The 100", what they did to that one man was a punishment for serious offenses and was called "floating".

[AntiArbitrator]

The Kaylons did not all sound the same to me. For example, the Kaylon who said he would escort the doctor to sickbay had deeper tones than Isaac.

Isaac not clarifying whether or not he knew the ultimate plan when he studied people on the ship was likely intentional. It will keep us guessing, and more will be revealed as the story progresses.

[AntiArbitrator]

"Blood of Patriots" was a very good episode. Gordon played a major role in solving an issue that could have prevented a treaty with the Krill.

I liked seeing Kermit perched on the Captain's desk. I also liked seeing Yaphit receive a promotional award.

[avp60685]

It was a very good episode and I spotted a miniature of the first airplane created by the Wright brothers on Ed's desk tonight.

I liked it very much, the guy playing Gordon's friend looked familiar but wasn't sure if I have seen him before or not in another acting project.

I'll have a better review later on.

[avp60685]

Blood of Patriots thoughts:

The introduction scene with the awarding ceremony for Yaphit was a nice intro, I noticed that Isaac wasn't there, if he was I didn't spot him. I noticed that Ed spilled out all of his drink to avoid taking a shot, he must really hate that drink for him to pour all out like that.

It was nice to see Ted Danson again and giving Ed the update on the Krill. Then things really start to heat up from there! The attack on the shuttle seemed surprising, why are the Krill attacking one of their own ships? And to see the expression on Gordon's face after they rescue the shuttle and bring it back to the Orville to know that this is someone he knows.

I thought at first it might have been a brother of Gordon's but he might as well have been since apparently they were that close. The 'daughter' definitely has a suspicious vibe about her, I don't trust her at all but I am glad that Talla was able to get creative with her procedures in stalling the Krill. It gave me a few chuckles during that scene, especially when she snapped on the gloves.

But what is Gordon's friend really up to? He definitely has a suspicious vibe about him, I suspect that he knows more than he saying and I think the 'daughter' may be the weapon. Not sure how right now but yeah she is definitely a weapon of some kind.

I do like that musical instrument that Talla introduced us to, it looks a little like a keyboard but plays very differently.

Gordon definitely was right to go to Talla and tell her about his suspicions of Orrin and the attacks were many Krill were killed. I know that Ed definitely was showing a lot of maturity in asking the Admiral for more guidance in this matter because it is a sticky situation, an Union officer who seems to be peaceful and non-violent accused of a crime but yet the evidence seems to point otherwise.

I can understand that Ed wants peace between the Krill and the Union but doesn't want to jeopardize people who don't have to be unless it is absolutely necessary.

The scene where Gordon gives the impression he has betrayed Ed and the rest of the crew was an unique twist in the framing of the scene. We don't know if somehow Ed was told of what was happening from Talla's quarters/office or not but I am glad Orrin didn't suspect differently.

Oh ho so Orrin's daughter isn't really his daughter and she talks?! Not overly surprised but I am glad Claire acted quickly and explained as best as she could about why she had them seal off that room. Then the scenes then alternated back to Gordon and Orrin where he reveals his true intentions and how he attacked those people without a single weapon.

I really didn't think Orrin was going to follow Gordon but the fight scene was pretty intense, I was almost holding my breath wondering if he would break free or not and when he ejected from the shuttle with just moments to spare was really intense.

His spacesuit looked a lot like others I have seen on a lot of Star Trek episodes and movies.

I am glad that Ed did still managed to get the peace treaty started with the Krill at the end, it was kinda cute to see the Krill's handwriting symbol at the end of C.T.

One thing that still had me a little confused but I think I may have figured it out, if that wasn't Orrin's real daughter, did they send her back to the Krill since she was still sealed in the room? I mean they didn't elaborate but I think that's a good possibility on what happened.

Anyway next week no new episode but the following week will be another Gordon packed episode? Hmmmm interesting!

[KyleEl]

I didn't recognize Ted Danson until he was on the second time. Or I might have recognized his voice sometime during his first communication, but the screen was larger the second time.

I wasn't suspicious at all of the daughter. I just assumed she had been traumatized. It was a shock when she revealed her true nature. It was exciting when Claire figured out what was going on. She called for a full medical team at one point. I knew there were other doctors, but they just show her. I don't know what a team on that ship would consist of.

Gordon's loyalty nearly caused all sorts of problems. But they were actually pretending so that whatever plans there were could be dealt with. And Gordon got out just in time.

I was beginning to think there would neve be peace with the Krill.

[avp60685]

There was actually a brief cameo of the Orville on last night's episode of Family Guy which I found to be a tad lame. Basically Peter wanted to see the actual ship somehow, it was nice seeing it animated but the dialogue was lame.

[KyleEl]

Mar 11, 2019 20:33:30 GMT -5 avp60685 said:

There was actually a brief cameo of the Orville on last night's episode of Family Guy which I found to be a tad lame. Basically Peter wanted to see the actual ship somehow, it was nice seeing it animated but the dialogue was lame.

I haven't seen that yet.

I was relieved there was no episode. I can't even read newspapers. There is no room on the other TiVos so I'm going as fast as I can. I shouldn't have been here this late but I even have three other things to do on the computer tomorrow I don't even have time to do.

[KyleEl]

Okay, I saw the episode. Peter was listing the people (and The Orville) who could go camping in his place.

I know the science fiction here is pretty remarkable (a baby building a time machine, for example), but a DNA test with instant results?

[avp60685]

Thoughts on Lasting Impressions:

I was immediately intrigued when I recognized the scientist's voice, he had played a Vulcan on Star Trek: Voyager! I hadn't seen him in ages I almost expected him to have his Vulcan pointed ears but it was nice to see his return to acting.

The items from the time capsule looked like random junk at first until we saw different reactions to some of the items, I was surprised Ed wasn't intrigued by the cellphone or any of the other items, Bortus was intrigued by the cigarette? Interesting!

I was surprised how Gordon was able to create a simulation of Laura and her life just based off phone alone, I think I spotted his name under contacts on the text messages she had, maybe I didn't but it was nice to see her world and her interactions with Gordon.

I was surprised he didn't wear something more casual even for the first meeting with her, maybe he was eager to get the simulation started.

Gordon really played low-key about being from the future but he did go overboard with his interactions with her. It was nice to see more things in Ed's office during his meeting, I spotted more Orville references from the Wright brothers including the picture on the wall of the first flight by the Wright Brothers. I think I saw a snow globe on his desk too, a reference to the movie "Citizen Kane" possibly.

Uh-oh the cigarette addiction went overboard it was humorous at first but then it was got tiresome but I am glad Claire found way to to help cure their addictions.

I never knew that Kelly knew how to cross her eyes like that, that was interesting, I can't do that but some people I guess can.

It was sweet of Gordon to do a duet with her at the very end and tell her good-bye and for them to take a picture together, it was a nice touch, a great way to end the episode.

No new episodes until the 11th of April, this season is really flying by but it is way better than Season 1!

[AntiArbitrator]

AVP covered the highlights.

I think they need a chaperone in the simulation room. Too much pervy stuff goes on in there and it seems anyone can just walk in.

Gordon is a fun-loving guy and he could get a regular date if he got over his fear of rejection. I like him and want to see him have a normal date. Kelly's is the only relationship that has been normal so far.

[KyleEl]

I was looking at the credits and realized Laura is one of the "Single Parents". She's so much nicer here. On her other show she is neurotic and lacks confidence. I had just gotten through watching the episode where she couldn't afford sports equipment for her son (who, ironically, didn't even want to play hockey when he actually found out what it was). Her overbearing friend put her on a budget and wouldn't let her buy $6 coffee but insisted she make her own at home and she whined about that and so many other things. Here, Laura was quite likeable and a good singer too. I especially liked the duet. I was surprised at her attitude about Macy's. Every Thanksgiving I get the idea that everyone likes working there. It was such a shame what happened when Gordon just deleted her ex. I was quite surprised at how easy it was to create the simulation. And that Gordon kept his uniform on. I was surprised he didn't admit he was a military pilot.

The cigarette situation was funny. At first. I admit the smell is nice. I used to live where a lot of cigarettes were made. In fact, tobacco was grown there too and several kids worked in the fields. Since I left that area, there have been several places such as Winston-Salem where I could still smell tobacco, but the factories have been closed for many years now and converted to other uses.

[AntiArbitrator]

"The Orville" has highlighted several issues without being preachy and the smoking issue was amusing. They were not exaggerating how quickly people become addicted to nicotine. The rush and the addiction are difficult to resist after smoking a few cigarettes.

[KyleEl]

AVP, I assume you watched "Family Guy". I found the episode quite annoying because even if they never intended for us to hear the dialogue from the "real" episode, I would like to. I bet there was some good stuff there. I'm hoping a version exists without the commentary.

The cast members, pretending to be actors playing themselves on TV, commented on the episode. At one point the real Seth McFarlane showed up and made his own comments, finally explaining to the others that they weren't real. The other real people who did voices on the show did the same thing. Peter said to the others that the captain of The Orville was telling them they weren't real.

[avp60685]

Yes,that episode of Family Guy wasn't as good as some of the others. I really think it wasn't that great of an episode even without commentary.

[KyleEl]

Mar 31, 2019 15:05:09 GMT -5 avp60685 said:

Yes,that episode of Family Guy wasn't as good as some of the others. I really think it wasn't that great of an episode even without commentary.

I found it quite offensive, actually, but I'd still like to have seen more. I haven't seen last night's.

[KyleEl]

On "Single Parents", Laura celebrated her 30th birthday. Her biggest regret was missing Ozzfest because she was pregnant. So a friend of hers got a similar band to perform for her party. She sang when they did her favorite song "Raining Blood" by Slayer. Actually, screamed would be more like it. Very different character!

[avp60685]

Thoughts on "Sanctuary"

The introduction with Topa definitely was interesting way to start the episode to show how mistakenly he believe that females were inferior, it was nice to see a new teacher for the children and a familiar face too, I have seen her acting many times mostly in science fiction themed series mostly as a scientist or something science related so it was nice to see her as teacher. I had almost forgotten they needed a new person to be the teacher.

Bortus definitely was wrong to keep the baby a secret, at first I didn't understand why the baby was hidden but then it became clearer, the females are so rare and considered inferior to the male dominated society that she had to be hidden to spare her life.

Ed is definitely maturing more and more in his leadership as the Captain. The discovery of the hidden planet within the nebula was interesting and to see the return of the well-known female writer/philosopher. She liked the song "9 to 5'? I had to chuckle as I listened to it but then I listened closer and I could see how it could be used as a rallying call for the women in that society.

Ed was definitely in a situation that I did not envy in the least in going to the Union and still preserve this hidden sanctuary of a planet for these women. The Mocclans were very hostile during this but at least it got resolved but I think there may some after effects from this that may cause some serious consequences for Ed and his crew.

I liked the ending a lot with Topa and the girl, he seems to have a deeper appreciation for the females now and made sure to fix how he responded towards them after Bortus introduced him to the hidden baby girl. Klyden is indeed acting like a very belligerent towards females including Kelly so it was nice to see Bortus defend her and I think there may be a strained relationship between Bortus and Klyden now, I don't want to sound mean but I think they are slowly getting close to ending their relationship somehow.

I liked seeing Ed smile more with his teeth a bit more, it is rare when you see Seth do that and when he does, it really brightens up his face!