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Post by geordiegirl1967 on Jan 19, 2012 20:48:21 GMT -5
Interesting. I wonder who this person is that dean wants to trust? Crowley? Nah. Cas? Nah - Sam will be prepared to give Cas a chance before Dean will. Struggling for other options. Frank maybe? He is definitely mentally not totally all there. Anyway, sounds good stuff.
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Post by SoCal on Jan 19, 2012 21:16:37 GMT -5
I agree. Sounds great. I love it when the writers mix it up a little. I'd rather have the brothers doing a little dueling and fighting....but only because I love the make-up sex! :heart:
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Post by DeanandSam on Jan 19, 2012 21:17:06 GMT -5
I think it's for the next episode with Dean's child. Dean doesn't want to kill his child, but Sam does it anyway, probably behind his back, because he knows this gild would be a danger to society. That's probably what it is. Or it's my prediction anyway.
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Post by geordiegirl1967 on Jan 19, 2012 21:17:26 GMT -5
I agree. Sounds great. I love it when the writers mix it up a little. I'd rather have the brothers doing a little dueling and fighting....but only because I love the make-up sex! Not me. I hate it when they fight.
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Post by SoCal on Jan 19, 2012 21:23:49 GMT -5
I agree. Sounds great. I love it when the writers mix it up a little. I'd rather have the brothers doing a little dueling and fighting....but only because I love the make-up sex! Not me. I hate it when they fight. Really? Wouldn't it get boring if they hugged all the time? I like to see them mix it up a little. Gives the characters depth...otherwise they're just cardboard cut-outs, but far be it from me to denigrate your preferences. Variety is the spice of life...makes the world go around and things like that.
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Post by maddiew2011 on Jan 19, 2012 21:31:29 GMT -5
I think it's for the next episode with Dean's child. Dean doesn't want to kill his child, but Sam does it anyway, probably behind his back, because he knows this gild would be a danger to society. That's probably what it is. Or it's my prediction anyway. Don't think it's the slice girl's episode because Jared said We’re shooting an episode where Sam finds himself in the same situation that Dean was in with Amy. Slice Girls was filmed in November. Unless they let her go and she comes back.
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Post by percysowner on Jan 19, 2012 21:33:07 GMT -5
I think it's for the next episode with Dean's child. Dean doesn't want to kill his child, but Sam does it anyway, probably behind his back, because he knows this gild would be a danger to society. That's probably what it is. Or it's my prediction anyway. It kind of depends on when this interview was given. The quote says are shooting and will be shown in the spring, so it sounds like a late episode to me. I hope they don't have Dean's daughter around for more than one episode. Plus, how does Dean accept that this supernatural child is really his. He can't count back nine months and I don't see him getting a paternity test. So she shows up and says he is her dad. She may believe it, but really why would Dean just assume that she is telling the truth or that her mother only slept with him? Someone suggested it might be Garth and that wouldn't be bad. I've been told they are shooting 16 right now, so if the we're shooting quote mean what they are shooting now, it's not Castiel, although I always thought they would go that way. We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by DeanandSam on Jan 19, 2012 21:34:24 GMT -5
I think it's for the next episode with Dean's child. Dean doesn't want to kill his child, but Sam does it anyway, probably behind his back, because he knows this gild would be a danger to society. That's probably what it is. Or it's my prediction anyway. Don't think it's the slice girl's episode because Jared said We’re shooting an episode where Sam finds himself in the same situation that Dean was in with Amy. Slice Girls was filmed in November. Unless they let her go and she comes back. I honestly thought he was referring to episodes they have already shot and he was giving a summery of what's to come, but I could have also read it wrong lol.
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Post by spoilerwolf on Jan 19, 2012 21:40:12 GMT -5
Ugh. This sucks. Not gonna lie - I don't like this. Sam'll be made to be the bad guy - AGAIN.
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Post by benson35 on Jan 19, 2012 21:45:52 GMT -5
No Dean was right in what he did and he protected his brother all is good. I'd like to see the boys learning from each other. Although no one said it was a secret so maybe it will be more I'm going to protect you Dean.
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Post by spoilerwolf on Jan 19, 2012 21:47:54 GMT -5
See, I never saw what Dean did to Amy as 'right' - I saw him as wrong. So I won't be surprised if they made Sam "wrong" for his actions and Dean "right" because, imo, the writers ALWAYS WRITE SAM AS WRONG WRONG WRONG!!
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Post by percysowner on Jan 19, 2012 21:52:22 GMT -5
See, I never saw what Dean did to Amy as 'right' - I saw him as wrong. So I won't be surprised if they made Sam "wrong" for his actions and Dean "right" because, imo, the writers ALWAYS WRITE SAM AS WRONG WRONG WRONG!! *sighs* You and me both! I'm dreading this a bit.
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Post by isitfridayyet on Jan 19, 2012 23:19:15 GMT -5
WHY do I get a feeling that it's Cas?
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Post by DeanandSam on Jan 19, 2012 23:59:19 GMT -5
WHY do I get a feeling that it's Cas? It could be Cas, but I doubt it only because when he does come back, Sam isn't going to be in his right mind. So how Can Sam judge Dean on trust he has for somebody, when Sam can't make that judgement call because he is in the asylum when Cas returns. I think it's somebody else.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 20, 2012 0:07:40 GMT -5
IF IT'S THE EPI THEY ARE CURRENLTY FILMING, THAT WOULD BE 'PLUCKY PENNYWHISTLE'S MAGICAL MENAGERIE'. THIS IS THE EPI WHERE SAM GETS BEATEN UP BY CLOWNS AND THERE ARE UNICORNS RUNNING AMUCK SINCE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ACTORS WHO PLAY FRANK OR GARTH LISTED IN THE CAST, IT MAY NOT BE EITHER OF THEM. BY WHAT JARED SAID, DEAN ACTUALLY WANTS TO AND DOES TRUST THIS PERSON. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE CASTIEL, AS JARED ALSO SAID IN A PREVIOUS INTERVIEW THAT DEAN DOES NOT TRUST HIM AND IS STRUGGLING WITH WHAT TO DO ABOUT CAS. THAT WOULD BE IN EPI 17. MY GUESS IS THAT THIS INTERVIEW MAY HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO THEM FILMING THE NEXT EPI. I'M THINKING THAT THE PERSON JARED IS TALKING ABOUT, MAY BE DEAN'S DAUGHTER. THE AMAZON WOMAN HE HAS SEX WITH CONCEIVES AND GIVES BIRTH 36 HOURS AFTER THE CONCEPTION. THE CHILD IS THEN FULL GROWN WITHIN 2 DAYS. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE DAUGHTER TRIES AND SUCCEEDS IN GAINING DEAN'S TRUST. THIS WOULD THEN PUT SAM IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT DEAN WAS IN WITH THE KITSUNE. SINCE THIS IS DEAN'S DAUGHTER AND IT SOUNDS AS IF SAM MAY BE THE ONE GANKING HER, I CAN'T SEE THIS ENDING WELL FOR EITHER BROTHER. DEAN HAS TO DEAL WITH YET ANOTHER LOSS, THIS TIME, HIS CHILD. WHILE SAM WILL PROBABLY BE DEALING WITH THE CONFLICTING EMOTIONS OF BELIEVING HE DID RIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS PROTECTING HIS BROTHER, AND FEELING GUILTY BECAUSE HE HAD TO GANK HIS BROTHER'S CHILD (HIS NEICE).
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Post by DeanandSam on Jan 20, 2012 0:15:34 GMT -5
IF IT'S THE EPI THEY ARE CURRENLTY FILMING, THAT WOULD BE 'PLUCKY PENNYWHISTLE'S MAGICAL MENAGERIE'. THIS IS THE EPI WHERE SAM GETS BEATEN UP BY CLOWNS AND THERE ARE UNICORNS RUNNING AMUCK SINCE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ACTORS WHO PLAY FRANK OR GARTH LISTED IN THE CAST, IT MAY NOT BE EITHER OF THEM. BY WHAT JARED SAID, DEAN ACTUALLY WANTS TO AND DOES TRUST THIS PERSON. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE CASTIEL, AS JARED ALSO SAID IN A PREVIOUS INTERVIEW THAT DEAN DOES NOT TRUST HIM AND IS STRUGGLING WITH WHAT TO DO ABOUT CAS. THAT WOULD BE IN EPI 17. MY GUESS IS THAT THIS INTERVIEW MAY HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO THEM FILMING THE NEXT EPI. I'M THINKING THAT THE PERSON JARED IS TALKING ABOUT, MAY BE DEAN'S DAUGHTER. THE AMAZON WOMAN HE HAS SEX WITH CONCEIVES AND GIVES BIRTH 36 HOURS AFTER THE CONCEPTION. THE CHILD IS THEN FULL GROWN WITHIN 2 DAYS. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE DAUGHTER TRIES AND SUCCEEDS IN GAINING DEAN'S TRUST. THIS WOULD THEN PUT SAM IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT DEAN WAS IN WITH THE KITSUNE. SINCE THIS IS DEAN'S DAUGHTER AND IT SOUNDS AS IF SAM MAY BE THE ONE GANKING HER, I CAN'T SEE THIS ENDING WELL FOR EITHER BROTHER. DEAN HAS TO DEAL WITH YET ANOTHER LOSS, THIS TIME, HIS CHILD. WHILE SAM WILL PROBABLY BE DEALING WITH THE CONFLICTING EMOTIONS OF BELIEVING HE DID RIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS PROTECTING HIS BROTHER, AND FEELING GUILTY BECAUSE HE HAD TO GANK HIS BROTHER'S CHILD (HIS NEICE). Most likely scenario, which is sad and depressing to be quite honest. Though I felt like I was being yelled at lol
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 20, 2012 0:23:28 GMT -5
SORRY, I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO READ
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Post by DeanandSam on Jan 20, 2012 0:27:15 GMT -5
SORRY, I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO READ Gave you a Karma because I found that adorable for some strange reason lol
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Post by Rose on Jan 20, 2012 0:27:48 GMT -5
WHY do I get a feeling that it's Cas? I doubt very much it's Cas. Cas doesn't come back until episode 17 and they only just started shooting episode 16. I think this spoiler came out while shooting episode 15.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 20, 2012 2:43:11 GMT -5
thank you. since that made me smile, i gave you a karma as well
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 20, 2012 2:46:38 GMT -5
WHY do I get a feeling that it's Cas? Gotta admit, Cas was MY first thought too, they're currently filming 7.16 and 7.17 right now aren't they? Hmmm I don't think Dean trusts Frank, they didn't seem to trust each other lasst time they met. I think maybe it's Garth. Dean would see him as harmless and trustworthy.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Jan 20, 2012 3:06:19 GMT -5
Speaking of "The Girl Next Door", That will be the epi they will be airing tonite. Since I will be confined to my house all day and night (we're getting upto 9 inches of snow today), it's the perfect day for an SPN marathon
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Post by KristinPhoenix on Jan 20, 2012 3:14:17 GMT -5
Lucky you, I unfortunately live here in Ontario, Canada where we're hardly getting any snow at the moment - which for Canada is REALLY WEIRD - and I have to be at school at 8am in the morning and it takes me 2 hours by bus to get there.
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Post by MariaARIS3 on Jan 20, 2012 15:49:59 GMT -5
See, I never saw what Dean did to Amy as 'right' - I saw him as wrong. So I won't be surprised if they made Sam "wrong" for his actions and Dean "right" because, imo, the writers ALWAYS WRITE SAM AS WRONG WRONG WRONG!! *sighs* I never thought that Dean killing Amy was wrong. In fact, for me, he was dead right about it. What was dead wrong was lying to Sam about it. And he never actually apologized for that... I just hope if it's a similar case (not about the lying, but about Sam having to kill someone that Dean doesn't want to) the writers can handle it better this time, because I also don't want to see Sam being wrong for the billionth time now...
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Post by jensenRick on Jan 21, 2012 0:55:01 GMT -5
See, I never saw what Dean did to Amy as 'right' - I saw him as wrong. So I won't be surprised if they made Sam "wrong" for his actions and Dean "right" because, imo, the writers ALWAYS WRITE SAM AS WRONG WRONG WRONG!! *sighs* I agree with you about that, but I choose to remain cautiously optimistic.
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Post by smolderhalder67 on Jan 21, 2012 4:15:14 GMT -5
Oooh interesting. I hope it's Cas.. I can't really remember anyone else still alive that Dean really cares for.. except humanswhoarenottobenamed. But eh he'll have good reason.
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Post by shadowhund on Jan 21, 2012 8:01:13 GMT -5
I am not interested in any of the new spoilers. I would be excited if I knew Sam is in this episode not only as extra/supernumerary with a soulful look but as a human being with feelings. This season is certainly a Dean season like last season was more a Sam season. But even when it was all about Sam's soulless and the soul of Sam, we got almost no POV. That was in "unforgiven" and we got a glimpse in "The man who knew to much". That were the Sam centric episodes last season. Soulless Sam was not Sam, and no POV....The first half was soulless Sam and here after epi 6 we knew what was wrong with him and after the return of his soul Sam was almost mute in most of the episodes, bla....blech me=very angry This season its all about Dean but with only Dean POV. we got 1 episode "Hello Cruel World" that was SamPOV and I imagine one(!) another Sam centric episode this season. Add to this that Jared is becoming a daddy ( :heart: ) and understandable wants time off I think the writers didn't give much thought about Jareds absence meaning Sam's absence. But me as someone who is connected to Sam I think its really a downer even more. When they would handle Sam's issues with SamPOV, Sam insight, I would be the very last person to blame some absence from Jared/Sam because they ..can...do this right but I think they don't care and they won't think twice about Sam in the series So we have season 6 with all about Sam but barely Sam's POV and only two episodes with insight in Sam...and then we have season 7 wich is all about Dean abd massively DeanPOV and nonetheless only 2 episodes with Sam insight. Of course ...this season is not finished, bit I gave up excitement, hope for more Sam and Sam insight, follow up. What Sam lives through and how Sam is affected, the writers don't give a penny....Its Dean's affections, reactions, frustrations, disappointments, fears, depressions, losses, relationships, happinesses...what matters to the writers, Sam doesn't...But I have to admit how the writers are writing Dean is for me disappointing too. The heart of the show is very sick, it beats not balanced, and one of the heart ventricles is cutted away (from the audience [blood]). When you feed (or delivers with blood) only one of them the other one is dying and can't live on. Maybe in the end killing Amy was right, but how Dean treated Sam, saying one thing doing another was not right. Dean lied Sam outright in his face and I didn't think when I saw the episode first, that Dean was trying to protect Sam in not saying. It was like Dean knows what is right and he didn't trust Sam. I would have preferred that they both give Amy a chance and threaten to come back when they ever hear from her killing people again. The supposed Sam centric episode was in the least Sam centric, but it was showcased as Sam centric. I felt outright down after this episode aired, I felt let down regarding Sam from this episode and since this particular episode aired I am feeling let down by the writers regarding Sam. When now all those new spoilers come out, I don't feel any hope for SamPOV, I only think ahhhh another DeanPOV, Dean centric one disguised as Sam centric. It will be how Dean feels when Sam goes crazy, and how Dean feels when Sam is locked up and in the same time Dean has his encounter with Castiel while Sam is out of sight and also out of Dean's mind. Yeah, Dean I know from the past wouldn't be like that. But I see it that way thinking of the spoilers. And all what Jared said in his last interviews take further hope away for SamPOV, Sam insight, and Sam doing the right thing, its more its time for DeanPOV how he feels, and Sam is already shown this year. Shown in the intro when he is pushing his wound in his hand and seeing Lucifer, that is the Sam insight I expect, like in the intro, the rest of the episode is how Dean feels about this and about that, Sam is in the corner and feeling fine despite Jared said we saw Sam struggling and he prefers to show the human aspect, the human struggles, fallout, repercussions of Sam's life and experiences. But there is nada, nothing, a blank paper. They say Sam's soulful looks are tellling his story, I see them too, but its frankly to little and to late. I am still adjusting to this feelings of mine regarding the series. You all know how much I love Sam (and Dean too) Nowadays its just a little harder to empathize with Dean despite his inner is layed in the open. And to see any of Sam I focus the more on him, its the fault of the writers, I think it was a huge mistake to cut Sam out after S7E2.
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Post by chloekins on Jan 21, 2012 8:19:51 GMT -5
I am not interested in any of the new spoilers. I would be excited if I knew Sam is in this episode not only as extra/supernumerary with a soulful look but as a human being with feelings. This season is certainly a Dean season like last season was more a Sam season. But even when it was all about Sam's soulless and the soul of Sam, we got almost no POV. That was in "unforgiven" and we got a glimpse in "The man who knew to much". That were the Sam centric episodes last season. Soulless Sam was not Sam, and no POV....The first half was soulless Sam and here after epi 6 we knew what was wrong with him and after the return of his soul Sam was almost mute in most of the episodes, bla....blech me=very angry This season its all about Dean but with only Dean POV. we got 1 episode "Hello Cruel World" that was SamPOV and I imagine one(!) another Sam centric episode this season. Add to this that Jared is becoming a daddy ( ) and understandable wants time off I think the writers didn't give much thought about Jareds absence meaning Sam's absence. But me as someone who is connected to Sam I think its really a downer even more. When they would handle Sam's issues with SamPOV, Sam insight, I would be the very last person to blame some absence from Jared/Sam because they ..can...do this right but I think they don't care and they won't think twice about Sam in the series So we have season 6 with all about Sam but barely Sam's POV and only two episodes with insight in Sam...and then we have season 7 wich is all about Dean abd massively DeanPOV and nonetheless only 2 episodes with Sam insight. Of course ...this season is not finished, bit I gave up excitement, hope for more Sam and Sam insight, follow up. What Sam lives through and how Sam is affected, the writers don't give a penny....Its Dean's affections, reactions, frustrations, disappointments, fears, depressions, losses, relationships, happinesses...what matters to the writers, Sam doesn't...But I have to admit how the writers are writing Dean is for me disappointing too. The heart of the show is very sick, it beats not balanced, and one of the heart ventricles is cutted away (from the audience [blood]). When you feed (or delivers with blood) only one of them the other one is dying and can't live on. Maybe in the end killing Amy was right, but how Dean treated Sam, saying one thing doing another was not right. Dean lied Sam outright in his face and I didn't think when I saw the episode first, that Dean was trying to protect Sam in not saying. It was like Dean knows what is right and he didn't trust Sam. I would have preferred that they both give Amy a chance and threaten to come back when they ever hear from her killing people again. The supposed Sam centric episode was in the least Sam centric, but it was showcased as Sam centric. I felt outright down after this episode aired, I felt let down regarding Sam from this episode and since this particular episode aired I am feeling let down by the writers regarding Sam. When now all those new spoilers come out, I don't feel any hope for SamPOV, I only think ahhhh another DeanPOV, Dean centric one disguised as Sam centric. It will be how Dean feels when Sam goes crazy, and how Dean feels when Sam is locked up and in the same time Dean has his encounter with Castiel while Sam is out of sight and also out of Dean's mind. Yeah, Dean I know from the past wouldn't be like that. But I see it that way thinking of the spoilers. And all what Jared said in his last interviews take further hope away for SamPOV, Sam insight, and Sam doing the right thing, its more its time for DeanPOV how he feels, and Sam is already shown this year. Shown in the intro when he is pushing his wound in his hand and seeing Lucifer, that is the Sam insight I expect, like in the intro, the rest of the episode is how Dean feels about this and about that, Sam is in the corner and feeling fine despite Jared said we saw Sam struggling and he prefers to show the human aspect, the human struggles, fallout, repercussions of Sam's life and experiences. But there is nada, nothing, a blank paper. They say Sam's soulful looks are tellling his story, I see them too, but its frankly to little and to late. I am still adjusting to this feelings of mine regarding the series. You all know how much I love Sam (and Dean too) Nowadays its just a little harder to empathize with Dean despite his inner is layed in the open. And to see any of Sam I focus the more on him, its the fault of the writers, I think it was a huge mistake to cut Sam out after S7E2. Shadow, I agree with everything you said 100%. I was very excited at the beginning of the season. Finally, I thought we are getting back to basics from seasons 1-3 when the brothers bond was strong and unbreakable and the only thing that mattered. So I've been doubly disappointed because my hopes were raised. This season has just been nothing but Dean wallowing in self pity and selfishness with the only focus on Sam once in a while rubbing his hand. The mood is bleak and hopeless. Dean has one mood---anger. SG said it would be like Butch and Sundance but it's not even close. In seasons 1-3 the guys were living pretty much as they are now, under the radar but they were content because they were together. This season they are together but there's a sense that they're together because they have to be not that they want to be. The spoilers don't give me much hope that it will get better either and soon we'll be back to the Dean/Cas angst fest and Sam will be pushed to the sidelines again.
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Post by shadowhund on Jan 21, 2012 10:42:40 GMT -5
I agree! S6 was about Sam and Sam's soul without SamPOV, Sam insight, Sam's feelings, fears, except "Unforgiven" and "The Man Who Knew To Much" The focus was on Dean's feelings, DeanPOV and what not, instead they could have given us some reactions of Sam's soulless state, time, fallout from this time. When you think of it, he came back from the cage already in episode 1 season 6. It is implied that there was a time jump of one year too, so its now 3 years after Sam's return and we know almost nothing about him. Isn't this indeed ridiculous? Telling a human story, a journey of two....t..w..o..brothers only with one brothers feelings, POV, focus on emotions, reactions only of one brother. That's why I miss Sam, even when Sam does his soulful looks which always reaching my heart. But that is not enough by far!
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