Re: The Castiel Skeptics Society

[benson35]

@tens and you know that doesn't mean I don't love your other theories lol..

Oh its not that I 'literally' hated the angels. There was some amazing acting involved with great actors vs the Winchesters thats for sure. And as much as I thought Gabriel was cute it was probably more that I love Richard S. He is a great actor but i was a little disappointed only for the fact that I thought him as the trickster was so good and I thought that had more long gevity since the angels would be gone soon.

Which is why I can wrap my head around people liking Castiel because I didn't mind Ruby. I actually found her story a lot more interesting with Sam than Castiel since she also had something with Dean as well. I didn't mind that dynamic because I knew she was bad and was playing them.

I like the boys vs baddies more than the whole 'having friends' story for some reason. It brings the BA out in the Winchesters....

[benson35]

Oh anyone find it funny that Puppy, Sarah, Oleesa, Maria and a few other skeptics haven't been sighted lately...hmmm

[yimhappy]

Feb 16, 2012 16:52:06 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh anyone find it funny that Puppy, Sarah, Oleesa, Maria and a few other skeptics haven't been sighted lately...hmmm

JSs ate them.

[anicat]

Feb 16, 2012 17:12:41 GMT -5 yimhappy said:

Feb 16, 2012 16:52:06 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh anyone find it funny that Puppy, Sarah, Oleesa, Maria and a few other skeptics haven't been sighted lately...hmmm

JSs ate them.

*snorts coffee out nose* Yim, you're too much. ;D

Along those lines, I'd say they're all off on a Girls Day road trip adventure, on their way to see the world's largest ball of string.

[benson35]

Thanks for coming girls. Hilarious that this still is the thread to be lol.

And 'I ate them'. I don't get it?

[shadowhund]

Feb 16, 2012 16:20:47 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Yea well thanks for coming in here and droppin that jensenrick...sigh. I'm glad your not a skeptic too if you think that the person that is 'ugly' is not a skeptic.

@shadow ......... I believe that they dropped the real story where Castipop is concered I WAS and always will be Deans Ruby!!!! There is no doubt. Which is why there are always stories out there of him being so dodgy.

And Jensen saying he always had his back...like when would that be. I've always thought that if Jensen had someone, why couldn't it of been Bobby..hangon it was Bobby.

Castipop was always out for himself...always! And if he possibly helped out...The boys heard about it thats for sure..it was never out of the goodness of his heart.

The boys story is heating up and what I would love to see is this set right. The boys should always be the ones to get each other out of things, they have each others back, this is the story. Why mess with something that isn't broke. Which is why Deans story suffered a little...we were eventually told that it wasn't him it was the angelic help he got that made everything alright.

Sorry tens if they have any angel dna I'd be shocked and disappointed. I really hope not, I think they are better than that. SPN angels are not the ones I want the Winchesters to be. As humans, as heroes their story is amazing, with their faults and the way they've given up their lives to just take care of others. Its pretty noble and I'd love THAT to be made a storyline.

I'd of hoped we were done with the angels....bigger fish to fry and all!

Ben!!! for your comment!!! You know I love you (at least I hope)!!!!!

Ohleesa and Purple deleted their account and Puppy is banned!!!! Sarah will go too!!!! And I am thinking of it too!

[Aeryn]

Feb 16, 2012 15:57:04 GMT -5 jensenRick said:

Feb 16, 2012 11:31:57 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Please stop making this personal!

When you have some personal issues with some posters, don't make this openly here in this thread. You can debate this via pm's.

It is bizarre, it seems there are quite a few people on this thread who will only let go of their grudges when they are pried from their cold dead hands.

Makes me glad that I've decided- I'm not a skeptic anymore. The hate on this thread just gets too ugly.

Peace.

Very well said, Rick. It's one thing to be skeptical of Castiel...it's quite another to spew forth psychotic hate on a continual basis. Those who do so need to get a fucking grip.

[Mistermoonlight]

All I can say is you're gonna love the announcement tomorrow night in particular, Aeryn.

And I mean that in a good way.

[Aeryn]

Feb 16, 2012 20:38:40 GMT -5 Mistermoonlight said:

All I can say is you're gonna love the announcement tomorrow night in particular, Aeryn.

And I mean that in a good way.

You're toying with my fragile little mind, aren't you?

[Mistermoonlight]

'Fragile' is never a term I'd think to appy to you, Aeryn.

You just wait. You're gonna love it.

[benson35]

Oh gees shadow I'm so sorry that your thread has to constantly be derailed like this. Ravanne tried to get an intelligent conversation going, then spoiler and tens were givings us their opinions on SPN. But I suppose when you have members not use to actually discussing intelligently coming in here, its going to go to hell eventually.

Whats the point of naming a thread!

[isitfridayyet]

Feb 16, 2012 17:42:38 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

Feb 16, 2012 16:20:47 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Yea well thanks for coming in here and droppin that jensenrick...sigh. I'm glad your not a skeptic too if you think that the person that is 'ugly' is not a skeptic.

@shadow ......... I believe that they dropped the real story where Castipop is concered I WAS and always will be Deans Ruby!!!! There is no doubt. Which is why there are always stories out there of him being so dodgy.

And Jensen saying he always had his back...like when would that be. I've always thought that if Jensen had someone, why couldn't it of been Bobby..hangon it was Bobby.

Castipop was always out for himself...always! And if he possibly helped out...The boys heard about it thats for sure..it was never out of the goodness of his heart.

The boys story is heating up and what I would love to see is this set right. The boys should always be the ones to get each other out of things, they have each others back, this is the story. Why mess with something that isn't broke. Which is why Deans story suffered a little...we were eventually told that it wasn't him it was the angelic help he got that made everything alright.

Sorry tens if they have any angel dna I'd be shocked and disappointed. I really hope not, I think they are better than that. SPN angels are not the ones I want the Winchesters to be. As humans, as heroes their story is amazing, with their faults and the way they've given up their lives to just take care of others. Its pretty noble and I'd love THAT to be made a storyline.

I'd of hoped we were done with the angels....bigger fish to fry and all!

Ben!!! for your comment!!! You know I love you (at least I hope)!!!!!

Ohleesa and Purple deleted their account and Puppy is banned!!!! Sarah will go too!!!! And I am thinking of it too!

Just make sure you stay on twitter, Shadow! Your dislike of Castiel doesn't make me want to talk to you any less!

[Aeryn]

Feb 16, 2012 23:49:03 GMT -5 benson35 said:

I suppose when you have members not use to actually discussing intelligently coming in here, its going to go to hell eventually.

And I suppose when you have members that can't spell properly (or grasp the concept of punctuation), their opinions are going to be ignored.

[isitfridayyet]

Feb 17, 2012 8:55:44 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

Feb 16, 2012 23:49:03 GMT -5 benson35 said:

I suppose when you have members not use to actually discussing intelligently coming in here, its going to go to hell eventually.

And I suppose when you have members that can't spell properly (or grasp the concept of punctuation), their opinions are going to be ignored.

I fucking LOVE you dude.

[davidhayes1956]

Feb 17, 2012 8:55:44 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

And I suppose when you have members that can't spell properly (or grasp the concept of punctuation), their opinions are going to be ignored.

Punctuation is for puncs speeling is 4 people who want 2b understood

[davidhayes1956]

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[davidhayes1956]

By the way Aeyrn, in your profile under gender, "under clothes" is misspelled.

[ravanne]

Wow... I turn my head for 24 hours and the crazy breaks out. Let's see if we can get this conversation back on track.

Castiel's return (and the timing of it) is deeply problematic for a number of reasons for me. First of all (and most importantly) it comes in at the part of the season where Sam and what he is going through was supposed to be the focus. After spending more than half of a season with the focus squarely on Dean and his emotional struggles, those of us who have been waiting for Sam to finally start getting some real examination. With only 8 episodes left for the season, time is running out for Sam's story to start to be told and now with Castiel returning for three episodes, the opportunity is now nearly cut in half.

No matter how you cut it, Sam has always been at best a peripheral figure when Castiel and Dean are on screen together. The way the story has been written, Castiel was there for Dean and Dean alone to interact with. And many Castiel fans showed real resentment towards Sam if he was included in any small way (such as when Castiel called Sam its friend in AAH) because they felt so strongly that Castiel's primary focus must be Dean and Dean alone. For a lot of Sam fans (myself included) this was a primary source of our resentment towards this character - that the writers and that characters fans used it to sideline one of the lead characters and shuffle him into a secondary role that he has yet to escape from.

The other fact is that Sam is in the situation directly due to Castiel's actions. When you examine Castiel's actions in season 6, there is no way to avoid connecting the dots directly back to Castiel for Sam's difficulty. We first have the fact that Castiel was the one who pulled Sam's body from Hell, leaving his soul back in the cage to be tortured. Despite what the JSs might insist, there has been no clear answer as to whether this was a deliberate action on Castiel's part or not. Castiel did not give a firm denial when asked directly by Sam (its exact response was "How could you think that?"). Castiel then compounded the harm it did to Sam by 1) not telling Dean that Sam was to some degree out of Hell and 2) allowing Crowley to use Sam for further their plans. I was shocked that when the location of Sam's soul was confirmed, Castiel was opposed to trying to retrieve it and return it to Sam's body. Arguing that it would lead to Sam's death was not adequate justification since Sam would end up being destroyed by Dean because without his soul, Sam was an exceptionally dangerous being. I never could escape the feeling that the real reason was because Soulless Sam was just too damn useful to Castiel and Crowley.

In the end, Castiel committed what had to be its most gruesome crimes - first by helping to torture Ellie to death and then, to break the only shield that protected Sam from the horrors that he'd endured. All the claims of friendship and brotherhood were destroyed in that moment. Castiel is owed absolutely no consideration for what it did to Sam alone. When you add in the butchering of its own siblings in heaven and the mortals that offended it, there is no rational for Dean even entertaining for a second that Castiel warrants being saved. Not given Dean's justification for killing Amy Pond (that because she'd killed she couldn't be counted on not to kill again).

But Dean has never been rational when it comes to Castiel. And Castiel had used that repeatedly for its own ends. It used that trust in season 4 to get Dean to go along with its plans, and actively took a part in causing the estrangement between Dean and Sam (Ruby shares blame in that). In season 6, the evidence was overwhelming that Castiel was in with Crowley up to its eyeballs and was deliberately deceiving Dean. But Dean still wanted to give Castiel the benefit of the doubt, even going to far as to insist that even if Castiel was doing horrible things, there had to be a justifiable rational. He couldn't bring himself to believe what Castiel had done, even with the evidence staring him in the face.

Now we come to a point where Sam's defenses against his hell memories are shattered and he's paying the price for Castiel's arrogance and instead of Dean being there to focus on Sam and helping him regain his sanity, Dean must focus on Castiel and what to do with it. The only support that Sam had and absolutely cannot do without is not going to be there for him because Dean will be torn over what to do about Castiel. It boggles my mind that after all that Castiel had done, especially to Sam, that Dean is spending even a nanosecond debating on "helping" Castiel. The very idea that Castiel deserves any second chance after all it had done to the Winchesters - Sam especially - is sickening to me.

So yes, I do deeply resent Castiel's return. I'd be upset that they're bringing it back under any circumstances. But to bring it back at this point, when Sam is suffering so profoundly as a direct result of its lies and manipulations and cruelty is especially hard to swallow. Castiel deserves no more consideration than Ruby or any of the other monsters that has tried to harm them did, but given Dean's past behaviors, it's fairly clear that he's going to want to give Castiel the chance that he never offered any other being.

[ravanne]

Feb 14, 2012 22:06:10 GMT -5 JazzBeePrime said:

so nice to see the dean slams still in full effect. i missed those so very much

yes, Sam has literally been to hell and back.he's been tormented and torn apart by luci. metaphorically speaking, so has dean. he had to watch his beloved baby brother 'die' and not be able to do a damn thing about it. he's worn that guilt badge since s1, and with each passing season it became more intense. he's done everything he can to protect all the people around him that he loves, only to watch them die anyway. irregardless of what many think, dean knows that alls not well with sammy. he just isnt aware of how bad it is, and thats in part to sam trying to keep it from him so dean doesnt worry even more.

dean reached a breaking point before bobby's death. he had given up on just about everything. then bobby died, and it left both boys numb. it was a smidge harder on dean because he saw bobby as that loving father figure. not that sammy didnt love him too. its just that bobby seemed more like a beloved uncle to sam.

from what i have read, dean IS NOT that happy to see cas. he's mad at him for the betrayal and he doesn't trust him. where he becomes 'conflicted' is when castiel's re-appearence brings up some buried issues that dean has to face. that doesn't mean that those issues have to do with cas. they could simply just be triggered by his re-appearence.

ok, i feel better now that i got that all out

I wanted to take a momen to address this since those of us who don't like Castiel often take a lot of heat for being critical of Dean's actions. Given how tightly intertwined Dean's storyline has been with Castiel for three seasons, it's nearly impossible to discuss the problems that Castiel has caused without an examination (often a critical one) of Dean's actions as well. Like it or not, you cannot seperate the two and it was Dean that allowed some of Castiel's worst abuses by not being critical or suspicious enough. All though season 4, Castiel would tell Dean something and Dean for the most part accepted it without question. When Castiel told Dean that Sam was on a dark path, Dean accepted that as gospel (since it was coming from an angel, it had to be true) and Dean turned antagonistic and suspicious regarding his brother. He didn't know or care about the reasons for Sam's behavior. He only took Castiel's word that Sam was up to no good and all but drove Sam tighter into Ruby's grasp.

In season 6, Dean missed a great deal about what Castiel was really up to because he couldn't bring himself to believe that Castiel could be up to no good. Even when Bobby and Sam gave ample reason to suspect that Castiel was working against them, Dean didn't want to believe them. Dean was so tied up with Castiel that he couldn't allow himself to even begin to suspect that Casitel was working with Crowley. If it was any other creature, Dean would have been much more alert to something not being kosher, but this was Castiel. Castiel had its hooks very deep in Dean and it used that influence to keep the Winchesters from catching on to what it was doing until it was much too late to stop its plans.

My biggest concern with Castiel (in whatever incarnation it comes back in) returning is that Dean will have that instinctive need to trust that his old "friend" is back. That he will forget that Castiel caused him and Sam so much harm and that Castiel will play upon that need to believe that his friend was back. Castiel had been able to turn Dean against Sam before, and it seems very possible that it will attempt to do the very same now that Sam is so vulnerable. When it comes to recognizing Castiel's lies and manipulations, Dean has an extremely poor track record, and Sam tends to suffer as a result.

[Aeryn]

Feb 17, 2012 9:50:11 GMT -5 isitfridayyet said:

Feb 17, 2012 8:55:44 GMT -5 Aeryn said:

And I suppose when you have members that can't spell properly (or grasp the concept of punctuation), their opinions are going to be ignored.

I fucking LOVE you dude.

I love you too.

[Aeryn]

Feb 17, 2012 13:01:03 GMT -5 Rose said:

Feb 16, 2012 23:49:03 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh gees shadow I'm so sorry that your thread has to constantly be derailed like this. Ravanne tried to get an intelligent conversation going, then spoiler and tens were givings us their opinions on SPN. But I suppose when you have members not use to actually discussing intelligently coming in here, its going to go to hell eventually.

Whats the point of naming a thread!

This is my last post and I'm out of here. Done with this place and it's politics.

Benson, let me just say this; **** *** very much you hypocritical, pathetic excuse for a middle aged woman. Grow up. Act your age. Your profile back at the CWL said you were somewhere in your 40s, correct? Maybe stop spending so much time on internet forums whining loudly and rabidly about how much you loathe a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. You think THAT sparks intelligent discussion? *****, you have another thing coming if that's honestly what you think. You seriously need a friend or you need to get laid, something because you spend WAY too much time hating on a fictional character and being sickly obsessed with it on top of that.

Go out and live life. It shouldn't revolve around a television show. Just because everybody doesn't fucking agree with you, isn't bi-bro like you and doesn't LUV DEEN like you and other folks, doesn't mean it gives you the right to attack everyone and follow them around the forums like some crazy stalker and harass them upon every single comment they make. Another clue for you; stop believing everything you hear because everything you hear isn't always fact. Grow a brain for yourself, use it's capacity and maybe acknowledge how crazy you sound half the time.

Feb 16, 2012 16:52:06 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh anyone find it funny that Puppy, Sarah, Oleesa, Maria and a few other skeptics haven't been sighted lately...hmmm

Did you ever stop and think that maybe they're SICK of people like you and don't want to be involved in the bullshit anymore? That's right, benson. Not EVERYBODY loves you and agrees with you. My parting words; **** *** very much, sideways and with a chainsaw. Farewell!

After reading this, I won't need sex for a week.

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[1027phoenix]

Feb 17, 2012 14:33:53 GMT -5 ravanne said:

Feb 14, 2012 22:06:10 GMT -5 JazzBeePrime said:

so nice to see the dean slams still in full effect. i missed those so very much

yes, Sam has literally been to hell and back.he's been tormented and torn apart by luci. metaphorically speaking, so has dean. he had to watch his beloved baby brother 'die' and not be able to do a damn thing about it. he's worn that guilt badge since s1, and with each passing season it became more intense. he's done everything he can to protect all the people around him that he loves, only to watch them die anyway. irregardless of what many think, dean knows that alls not well with sammy. he just isnt aware of how bad it is, and thats in part to sam trying to keep it from him so dean doesnt worry even more.

dean reached a breaking point before bobby's death. he had given up on just about everything. then bobby died, and it left both boys numb. it was a smidge harder on dean because he saw bobby as that loving father figure. not that sammy didnt love him too. its just that bobby seemed more like a beloved uncle to sam.

from what i have read, dean IS NOT that happy to see cas. he's mad at him for the betrayal and he doesn't trust him. where he becomes 'conflicted' is when castiel's re-appearence brings up some buried issues that dean has to face. that doesn't mean that those issues have to do with cas. they could simply just be triggered by his re-appearence.

ok, i feel better now that i got that all out

I wanted to take a momen to address this since those of us who don't like Castiel often take a lot of heat for being critical of Dean's actions. Given how tightly intertwined Dean's storyline has been with Castiel for three seasons, it's nearly impossible to discuss the problems that Castiel has caused without an examination (often a critical one) of Dean's actions as well. Like it or not, you cannot seperate the two and it was Dean that allowed some of Castiel's worst abuses by not being critical or suspicious enough. All though season 4, Castiel would tell Dean something and Dean for the most part accepted it without question. When Castiel told Dean that Sam was on a dark path, Dean accepted that as gospel (since it was coming from an angel, it had to be true) and Dean turned antagonistic and suspicious regarding his brother. He didn't know or care about the reasons for Sam's behavior. He only took Castiel's word that Sam was up to no good and all but drove Sam tighter into Ruby's grasp.

In season 6, Dean missed a great deal about what Castiel was really up to because he couldn't bring himself to believe that Castiel could be up to no good. Even when Bobby and Sam gave ample reason to suspect that Castiel was working against them, Dean didn't want to believe them. Dean was so tied up with Castiel that he couldn't allow himself to even begin to suspect that Casitel was working with Crowley. If it was any other creature, Dean would have been much more alert to something not being kosher, but this was Castiel. Castiel had its hooks very deep in Dean and it used that influence to keep the Winchesters from catching on to what it was doing until it was much too late to stop its plans.

My biggest concern with Castiel (in whatever incarnation it comes back in) returning is that Dean will have that instinctive need to trust that his old "friend" is back. That he will forget that Castiel caused him and Sam so much harm and that Castiel will play upon that need to believe that his friend was back. Castiel had been able to turn Dean against Sam before, and it seems very possible that it will attempt to do the very same now that Sam is so vulnerable. When it comes to recognizing Castiel's lies and manipulations, Dean has an extremely poor track record, and Sam tends to suffer as a result.

Very well said. These are all the reasons that I despise the Cas character and do not want him back on SPN.
Thank you for posting this.

[windykl]

what has happened to this thread? i used to enjoy coming to this board and this thread because i thought this thread was a place for the skeptics to speak their mind about their dislike/hate about cas...did i miss smth?

ravanne---thank you for your refreshingly honest post!! and i'm glad ur here...

[JazzBeePrime]

i've read a few different interviews given by jared. in one, it almost sounds as if dean is conflicted in whether or not he's relieved to see cas alive. in another interview, he said that dean is "once bitten, twice shy" when it comes to cas. he doesn't trust him, doesn't know if they should ever trust him. he blames cas for misleading them.

taking both interviews into consideration, my feeling is that upon seeing cas alive, there's a sense of relief where dean's guilt complex is concerned. for whatever reason, dean feels guilty about castiel's death. hell, the boy feels guilt over things that aren't even his fault. so i think, that the feeling of 'conflict' could be over dean feeling a sense of relief (or lessening of guilt) at seeing castiel alive, but still beyond pissed and distrusting of him. in 7.02, dean wasn't looking to reconnect with cas. in fact, he was uber pissed and turned a cold shoulder to him.

i think dean may use cas to heal sam, the way cas used the boys to achieve his own goals. of course, thats all dependant on whether cas is really cas.

[isitfridayyet]

Feb 17, 2012 13:01:03 GMT -5 Rose said:

Feb 16, 2012 23:49:03 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh gees shadow I'm so sorry that your thread has to constantly be derailed like this. Ravanne tried to get an intelligent conversation going, then spoiler and tens were givings us their opinions on SPN. But I suppose when you have members not use to actually discussing intelligently coming in here, its going to go to hell eventually.

Whats the point of naming a thread!

This is my last post and I'm out of here. Done with this place and it's politics.

Benson, let me just say this; **** *** very much you hypocritical, pathetic excuse for a middle aged woman. Grow up. Act your age. Your profile back at the CWL said you were somewhere in your 40s, correct? Maybe stop spending so much time on internet forums whining loudly and rabidly about how much you loathe a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. You think THAT sparks intelligent discussion? *****, you have another thing coming if that's honestly what you think. You seriously need a friend or you need to get laid, something because you spend WAY too much time hating on a fictional character and being sickly obsessed with it on top of that.

Go out and live life. It shouldn't revolve around a television show. Just because everybody doesn't fucking agree with you, isn't bi-bro like you and doesn't LUV DEEN like you and other folks, doesn't mean it gives you the right to attack everyone and follow them around the forums like some crazy stalker and harass them upon every single comment they make. Another clue for you; stop believing everything you hear because everything you hear isn't always fact. Grow a brain for yourself, use it's capacity and maybe acknowledge how crazy you sound half the time.

Feb 16, 2012 16:52:06 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh anyone find it funny that Puppy, Sarah, Oleesa, Maria and a few other skeptics haven't been sighted lately...hmmm

Did you ever stop and think that maybe they're SICK of people like you and don't want to be involved in the bullshit anymore? That's right, benson. Not EVERYBODY loves you and agrees with you. My parting words; **** *** very much, sideways and with a chainsaw. Farewell!

@shadow; I apologize.

I'm out!

I think I just did something unexpected in my panties. Rose, stop giving me so much pleasure'

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[Aeryn]

Feb 17, 2012 22:19:39 GMT -5 ravanne said:

Feb 17, 2012 21:21:09 GMT -5 isitfridayyet said:

I think I just did something unexpected in my panties. Rose, stop giving me so much pleasure'

How about you try not to be such a complete asshole. What's the matter? The CSS not busy enough to occupy your limited attention span?

Ravanne, I believe this is the CSS.

[isitfridayyet]

haha. Ravanne. Looks like a slight misunderstanding. No worries. All is forgiven.

I could never insult Rose. I'm far too in love with her.

[shadowhund]

I want to request people who like the character of Castiel and want Dean to be BFF and vica verde and who think that this character contributes to the series to stay out of this thread!


People who think to make fun of us skeptics or scatter the original intent of this thread. People from the internet might come to read some interesting comments, critical comments and what they find are posters insulting other posters here, because of a unknown history with each other.


I think it should stay a save haven for people who dislike the character, dislike the sexual innuendos between Dean and Castiel, dislike how Dean is around this creature!

And I think this privileg doesn't only belong to "Samfans" also to "Deanfans" and fans of SPN!!

I respect also the Castiel-Fan-Club and don't post there! As much I respect that I want people to respect this thread too!!!

[chloekins]

Feb 18, 2012 7:43:02 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

I want to request people who like the character of Castiel and want Dean to be BFF and vica verde and who think that this character contributes to the series to stay out of this thread!


People who think to make fun of us skeptics or scatter the original intent of this thread. People from the internet might come to read some interesting comments, critical comments and what they find are posters insulting other posters here, because of a unknown history with each other.


I think it should stay a save haven for people who dislike the character, dislike the sexual innuendos between Dean and Castiel, dislike how Dean is around this creature!

And I think this privileg doesn't only belong to "Samfans" also to "Deanfans" and fans of SPN!!

I respect also the Castiel-Fan-Club and don't post there! As much I respect that I want people to respect this thread too!!!

Thank You Shadow!!!

[shadowhund]

Feb 18, 2012 7:54:56 GMT -5 chloekins said:

Feb 18, 2012 7:43:02 GMT -5 shadowhund said:

I want to request people who like the character of Castiel and want Dean to be BFF and vica verde and who think that this character contributes to the series to stay out of this thread!


People who think to make fun of us skeptics or scatter the original intent of this thread. People from the internet might come to read some interesting comments, critical comments and what they find are posters insulting other posters here, because of a unknown history with each other.


I think it should stay a save haven for people who dislike the character, dislike the sexual innuendos between Dean and Castiel, dislike how Dean is around this creature!

And I think this privileg doesn't only belong to "Samfans" also to "Deanfans" and fans of SPN!!

I respect also the Castiel-Fan-Club and don't post there! As much I respect that I want people to respect this thread too!!!

Thank You Shadow!!!

Hi chloe, I just needed 30 minutes to find the right words , and I even don't know whether they are the right words!!! Ha ha!!!

Its like the personal space, Dean demanded (once upon a time), and this is internet where we meet each other to a certain degree, without really knowing each other personally. There are fun threads and there are threads which are simply to vent and/or to discuss in a critical manner some storylines regarding SPN and around this supernatural creature (and not to forget the appreciation threads for the diiferent characters) And of course this includes a critical view at Dean and Sam while they are around the creature!

PS: And I just noticed that I can't see "yellow" on white, not good. I should have chosen another color!