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Post by benson35 on Feb 6, 2012 18:22:00 GMT -5
There is a poll that really is quite disgusting. This is a once great show and can be again but these sorts of fans are making it rather embarrassing and have no sense of a line to not cross. They don't care that Dean isn't gay or that Jensen will be asked for an interview to talk about it. All they want is it to feed their non canon fix. They are the only choice on the poll that isn't canon at all. Lets get rid of this once and for and so we can show that this show isn't about that and never will be and so Jensen doesn't have to answer any stupid awkward questions. au.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/tvs_top_couples_vote_final_four/291861
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 6, 2012 20:25:34 GMT -5
I beg to differ. With his terminally macho facade, I feel that Dean might be over-compensating...in other words, he's trying to hide his gayness.
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 6, 2012 20:46:25 GMT -5
Actually no. Quinn and Rachel are NOT canon. They aren't even friends! Faberry is as strange and as relentless as Destiel. Not voting either way. Jensen can opt out if it makes him uncomfortable. What a waste of energy on both sides IMO.
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Post by DeanandSam on Feb 6, 2012 21:27:30 GMT -5
It's not that I don't agree with what you said bensen, for a more longer analyses look at the Skeptics thread. In the end, a silly poll is a silly poll. I don't want to invest my time in something that my heart isn't in to.
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 6, 2012 22:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Feb 6, 2012 22:48:36 GMT -5
HONESTLY? THE POLL SEEMS TO BE ALL IN GOOD FUN ANYWAY. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. I ACTUALLY FIND IT HILARIOUS. ITS NOT LIKE THE WRITERS (AND EVEN MISHA AND JENSEN) DON'T POKE FUN AT THE PERCEIVED SEXUAL TENSION BETWEEN CAS AND DEAN. HELL, JUST WATCH IN THE EPI 'PONR', AFTER SAM AND CAS LOCK DEAN IN BOBBY'S PANIC ROOM. CAS GIVES DEAN A FUNNY LOOK AND DEAN RESPONDS BY SAYING, "THE LAST TIME SOMEONE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT, I GOT LAID". IT'S NOT LIKE SOME ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO STATE AS FACT THAT DEAN IS GAY. BESIDES, EVEN IF HE WAS, WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 6, 2012 23:44:10 GMT -5
HONESTLY? THE POLL SEEMS TO BE ALL IN GOOD FUN ANYWAY. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. I ACTUALLY FIND IT HILARIOUS. ITS NOT LIKE THE WRITERS (AND EVEN MISHA AND JENSEN) DON'T POKE FUN AT THE PERCEIVED SEXUAL TENSION BETWEEN CAS AND DEAN. HELL, JUST WATCH IN THE EPI 'PONR', AFTER SAM AND CAS LOCK DEAN IN BOBBY'S PANIC ROOM. CAS GIVES DEAN A FUNNY LOOK AND DEAN RESPONDS BY SAYING, "THE LAST TIME SOMEONE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT, I GOT LAID". IT'S NOT LIKE SOME ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO STATE AS FACT THAT DEAN IS GAY. BESIDES, EVEN IF HE WAS, WHATS THE BIG DEAL? Exactly! It's all in fun, and fans that aren't completely brain dead understand that. Some of the best dialogue on the show is between Castiel and Dean...really funny stuff.
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Post by DeanandSam on Feb 7, 2012 0:03:15 GMT -5
HONESTLY? THE POLL SEEMS TO BE ALL IN GOOD FUN ANYWAY. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. I ACTUALLY FIND IT HILARIOUS. ITS NOT LIKE THE WRITERS (AND EVEN MISHA AND JENSEN) DON'T POKE FUN AT THE PERCEIVED SEXUAL TENSION BETWEEN CAS AND DEAN. HELL, JUST WATCH IN THE EPI 'PONR', AFTER SAM AND CAS LOCK DEAN IN BOBBY'S PANIC ROOM. CAS GIVES DEAN A FUNNY LOOK AND DEAN RESPONDS BY SAYING, "THE LAST TIME SOMEONE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT, I GOT LAID". IT'S NOT LIKE SOME ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO STATE AS FACT THAT DEAN IS GAY. BESIDES, EVEN IF HE WAS, WHATS THE BIG DEAL? Exactly! It's all in fun, and fans that aren't completely brain dead understand that. Some of the best dialogue on the show is between Castiel and Dean...really funny stuff. Yeah, but that's FRIENDSHIP and the bond that pertains to that relationship. They are not a couple, and anybody who isn't brain dead will realize why some of use are irked about this poll
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 0:11:14 GMT -5
There were at least 2 other non canon pairings from what I can tell. It's harmless. Don't get so worked up. The actors are big boys and if the interview idea is unappealing to them, they can turn it down. They know about Destiel. They know we've got an "imaginative" bunch of folks in this fandom. They also know we vote for them in every poll until our fingers bleed, that we love, support, and appreciate their work, and spend money on tickets to conventions to meet them. I'm sure some fans care way more about this than the actors ever will. It's not canon...duh...but it's not going anywhere. Accept, ignore, and move on IMO.
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Post by DeanandSam on Feb 7, 2012 0:19:25 GMT -5
There were at least 2 other non canon pairings from what I can tell. It's harmless. Don't get so worked up. The actors are big boys and if the interview idea is unappealing to them, they can turn it down. They know about Destiel. They know we've got an "imaginative" bunch of folks in this fandom. They also know we vote for them in every poll until our fingers bleed, that we love, support, and appreciate their work, and spend money on tickets to conventions to meet them. I'm sure some fans care way more about this than the actors ever will. It's not canon...duh...but it's not going anywhere. Accept, ignore, and move on IMO. You make a point. A good point. I mean I am not spending my time voting against time, don't have time for it, but I am voicing my opineon on it because after they win I have to suffer hearing about many Cas/Dean fans about how the network will make them canon. Trust me friday I have seen way to much negative stuff out there, not only about the actors, but now the writers because apparently they aren't full filling the fantasy of a non-canon ship. I know, I know, not everybody is that negative, but that all I see now, is negativity. It's hard to swallow it all.
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Post by benson35 on Feb 7, 2012 1:00:01 GMT -5
HONESTLY? THE POLL SEEMS TO BE ALL IN GOOD FUN ANYWAY. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. I ACTUALLY FIND IT HILARIOUS. ITS NOT LIKE THE WRITERS (AND EVEN MISHA AND JENSEN) DON'T POKE FUN AT THE PERCEIVED SEXUAL TENSION BETWEEN CAS AND DEAN. HELL, JUST WATCH IN THE EPI 'PONR', AFTER SAM AND CAS LOCK DEAN IN BOBBY'S PANIC ROOM. CAS GIVES DEAN A FUNNY LOOK AND DEAN RESPONDS BY SAYING, "THE LAST TIME SOMEONE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT, I GOT LAID". IT'S NOT LIKE SOME ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO STATE AS FACT THAT DEAN IS GAY. BESIDES, EVEN IF HE WAS, WHATS THE BIG DEAL? Exactly! It's all in fun, and fans that aren't completely brain dead understand that. Some of the best dialogue on the show is between Castiel and Dean...really funny stuff. Some of the worst dialogue in the show has been between these two characters. And what is funny about an angel yet again not working out a phone. He plays the dumb blonde and even dumb blondes get old. The wit has gone out of the show and we were left with dumb jokes of being to close. I don't think I've ever hear one funny moment come from Dean and Castiel that isn't put down to being obvious rather than clever like Dean was and he is with Sam and even Garth was funnier. Actually so was the trickster and/or alot of other characters. So no the best dialogue hasn't been them see 620 and 621 and 622 lol. OMG and even his first apperance. I thought they were joking when he went the whole 'perdition' route. That was embarrassing. I suppose it can be put down to hating dumb persons humour. It was a little beneath this show especially when Dean was so funny himself. I'm voting against this crap. Because thats not supporting the show in no way shape or form. And all of the other couples are together and/or have shown to be falling for each other at one time or another. So yea alot of it can be canon because they do care for each other romantically.
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 1:16:02 GMT -5
I understand. Trust me..I can see why it annoys some fans but I am confident that it will never be canon. It's fun for some fans to make pairings like that in fanfic but just because Destiel may win a poll doesn't increase it's chances of being canon. The Castiel and dean friendship is a great story with interesting dynamics IMO but I wouldn't be concerned about the writers evolving it into a romantic relationship. They poke fun at it like in PONR...but to me...that line about the way cas was looking at dean was just a poke at Cas's funny expressions. I think it's funny at least. Cas's return to the show and some fans voting Destiel in a poll just doesn't seem like a valid reason to get all worked up IMO. Dean isn't gay. The writers aren't gonna make him gay. Cas isn't coming back so that he and dean can get married. He's coming back to hopefully provide closure and a satisfying resolution to his Godstiel arc. Heaven forbid a character who is loved by a large chunk of the fandom gets a decent ending. Now I am getting off topic and I know not all will agree. My only point is that if some fans are fearing that this poll will upset/insult Jensen or make Destiel become canon is not rational. It's just a fun poll. If it annoys you, it's prolly best to ignore and save your energy because I can guarantee there will be similar things in the future. Calling Destiel fans delusional and voting against it may make some fans feel better but it won't make it go away.
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 7, 2012 1:16:07 GMT -5
Exactly! It's all in fun, and fans that aren't completely brain dead understand that. Some of the best dialogue on the show is between Castiel and Dean...really funny stuff. Yeah, but that's FRIENDSHIP and the bond that pertains to that relationship. They are not a couple, and anybody who isn't brain dead will realize why some of use are irked about this poll Awww, you're irked? Poor little darling. I was totally going to smite you until I remembered that I told you how to opt out of the karma thing. Damn it!!!!
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 1:19:03 GMT -5
Do you watch glee benson? Quinn and Rachel are girls, not lesbians, and barely friends. Maybe you were thinking of Finn? He's her male boyfriend. Not in the poll. I'm with the large chunk of the fandom who DID find Cas and Deans interactions funny. Not your cup of tea...fine. Still...I don't think he's coming back to fail at using a cell phone. It's going to be angsty goodness...and I think cas prolly has amnesia. I'm excited. obviously if you hate cas you won't be but....one thing I can promise you. This poll doesn't affect anything either way.
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Post by benson35 on Feb 7, 2012 1:34:54 GMT -5
Do you watch glee benson? Quinn and Rachel are girls, not lesbians, and barely friends. Maybe you were thinking of Finn? He's her male boyfriend. Not in the poll. lol I didn't see that. Well thats ridiculous too. Although more open because that show is all about the lesbian and gay allegiance. I'd say you'd be open to pair anyone on that show and yoiu'd never know. But Dean is clearly not gay...and a wonderful character. I'm not a glee fan of sorts so I don't watch but if I was I wouldn't vote for them and since Deans not Gay at all, I would make sure that he isn't stuck with this either. Theres fiction and fanfiction, I thought this fandom was a little more intelligent and keeps to canon for polls. I mean if Dean was voted for the favourite actress, would you vote.
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Post by Lostcause on Feb 7, 2012 1:41:05 GMT -5
I mean if Dean was voted for the favourite actress, would you vote. Honestly? I totally would! If it meant he'd have to accept the win in a dress, I'd vote twice! Jensen may be the one of two guys (the other being Johnny Depp) who is actually pretty enough to pull off a dress! I giggle just at the thought!
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 1:42:26 GMT -5
Do you watch glee benson? Quinn and Rachel are girls, not lesbians, and barely friends. Maybe you were thinking of Finn? He's her male boyfriend. Not in the poll. lol I didn't see that. Well thats ridiculous too. Although more open because that show is all about the lesbian and gay allegiance. I'd say you'd be open to pair anyone on that show and yoiu'd never know. But Dean is clearly not gay...and a wonderful character. I'm not a glee fan of sorts so I don't watch but if I was I wouldn't vote for them and since Deans not Gay at all, I would make sure that he isn't stuck with this either. Theres fiction and fanfiction, I thought this fandom was a little more intelligent and keeps to canon for polls. I mean if Dean was voted for the favourite actress, would you vote. Both Glee characters are clearly straight. It's ridiculous. I concur. No...but I didn't vote for this either. I'm just not going to let it bother me and you shouldn't either! It's harmless. It won't change anything whether win or lose. For example...wincest bugs me. If it was a Sam/dean pairing on the poll, I'd at it...but then let it go. This fandom is diverse. Crazier things will happen. we don't have to like it...but...I just think trying to stop it is pointless.
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 1:45:00 GMT -5
I mean if Dean was voted for the favourite actress, would you vote. Honestly? I totally would! If it meant he'd have to accept the win in a dress, I'd vote twice! Jensen may be the one of two guys (the other being Johnny Depp) who is actually pretty enough to pull off a dress! I giggle just at the thought! I'd spearhead the petition to let Jensen know that his victory was due to your advocacy!
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Post by benson35 on Feb 7, 2012 1:47:10 GMT -5
Hangon aren't Brittany and Savanna together. Their the Lesbians right?
I think I'm getting the jist of this poll now...hmmm?
Not that there should be a problem at all and I'm all for it if they are together of course. Pairings are pairings if they are together....but Dean for mean is intouchable and I think this poll is pretty ridiculous. Atleast make it canon or even that they have a flirtatious relationship.
Dean and Castiel clearly do not! I don't know about the Glee ones but I'm presuming that one of them is a couple since thats what my daughter just told me ha!
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Post by isitfridayyet on Feb 7, 2012 1:54:34 GMT -5
Yes. Britanna is legit. Quinn is single and straight. Rachel is with Finn. There is a male gay couple too. Kurt and Blaine.
There is canon/non canon mixed in the poll. I'm actually surprised Alaric/Damon weren't on there. That's another gay non canon pairing I've seen for TVD.
*shrug*
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Post by benson35 on Feb 7, 2012 2:02:07 GMT -5
Britannia is that what these two are called? hmm I hate when they combine names.. I actually love Booth and boreanaz. I watched that and they are steamy, I'm kind of in love with their love affair. I dont' want Glee like I said and I'm not voting for anyone except Dean and Supernatural which means I'm voting for who ever is up against them.
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Feb 7, 2012 3:58:44 GMT -5
HAVING LOVED S4 CASTIEL MYSELF, I ACCEPT THAT OTHERS HAVE NEVER LIKED CAS. THE WRITERS WEREN'T TRYING TO PORTRAY HIM AS STUPID, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ACROSS THAT HE HAD ALL THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HUMAN WORLD, OF A VERY SMALL CHILD. THAT'S WHY DEAN SOMETIMES REFERED TO CAS AS A CHILD. BEING A BIG KID MYSELF, I LOVED THEIR FUNNIER INTERACTIONS. GRANTED, AS MUCH AS I ADORED CAS, I'LL ALWAYS HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR GABRIEL. AS FOR THIS POLL, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BASING ANY OF IT ON SHOW CANON (FOR ANY OF THE VARIOUS CHARACTERS THEYRE PAIRING OFF). IT'S MORE A POLL FOR THE FANS WHO ENJOY AND OFTEN SHIP ALL THOSE PAIRINGS. THERE'S NO HARM IN THAT. JENSEN IN A DRESS? YEA, THAT HAPPENED IN 10 INCH HERO, WITH JENSEN WEARING A KILT you mean something along these lines? DANGER! DANGER! ENEMY TAMPONS AMASSING IN THE FEMININE PRODUCT AISLE. TAKE EVASIVE ACTION!
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Post by sarahg6 on Feb 7, 2012 9:24:44 GMT -5
I mean if Dean was voted for the favourite actress, would you vote. Honestly? I totally would! If it meant he'd have to accept the win in a dress, I'd vote twice! Jensen may be the one of two guys (the other being Johnny Depp) who is actually pretty enough to pull off a dress! I giggle just at the thought! Johnny Depp yes, Jensen no. His bow legs would kill the dress!
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Post by theartist27 on Feb 7, 2012 10:54:14 GMT -5
If he were to wear a long dress, you wouldn't see his legs.
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Post by Lostcause on Feb 7, 2012 11:18:22 GMT -5
Honestly? I totally would! If it meant he'd have to accept the win in a dress, I'd vote twice! Jensen may be the one of two guys (the other being Johnny Depp) who is actually pretty enough to pull off a dress! I giggle just at the thought! Johnny Depp yes, Jensen no. His bow legs would kill the dress! Damn, then the short skirt outfit goes to Depp, and as theartist27 points out, Jensen gets the classy long dress, only showing off a little tease of an ankle!
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Post by Aeryn on Feb 7, 2012 11:36:33 GMT -5
If he were to wear a long dress, you wouldn't see his legs. Okay, I got that one.
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Post by Rose on Feb 7, 2012 11:53:52 GMT -5
I beg to differ. With his terminally macho facade, I feel that Dean might be over-compensating...in other words, he's trying to hide his gayness. LOL what macho facade, Aeryn? He hasn't exactly been the picture of manliness lately what with his moping about and self pity parties and his "oh I have it so bad" attitude and his softness. I still liked Ness telling him "boohoo" because that's exactly right. Boohoo, Dean. You're not the only one who has issues in life and who has lost people you love. You're 32-33 years old... grow up. Get over it and move on buddy. Oh and maybe acknowledge that your brother is going through some shit too instead of playing yourself the world's smallest violin for a change... x___x Oops, I got off-topic. Yeah, uh... Dean and Cas aren't a couple in the show. It's not canon therefore it shouldn't be getting really stupid, fucked up polls like this. Just sayin'.
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Post by shadowhund on Feb 7, 2012 12:32:13 GMT -5
I beg to differ. With his terminally macho facade, I feel that Dean might be over-compensating...in other words, he's trying to hide his gayness. LOL what macho facade, Aeryn? He hasn't exactly been the picture of manliness lately what with his moping about and self pity parties and his "oh I have it so bad" attitude and his softness. I still liked Ness telling him "boohoo" because that's exactly right. Boohoo, Dean. You're not the only one who has issues in life and who has lost people you love. You're 32-33 years old... grow up. Get over it and move on buddy. Oh and maybe acknowledge that your brother is going through some shit too instead of playing yourself the world's smallest violin for a change... x___x Oops, I got off-topic. Yeah, uh... Dean and Cas aren't a couple in the show. It's not canon therefore it shouldn't be getting really stupid, fucked up polls like this. Just sayin'. yeah right about Dean, Rose! The writers like it to delve into Dean's tiredness and depression, but I am so over it that it actually makes me only rolling my eyes....every time! I can't take it serious anymore, so for me the writers did Dean not a favor! But to stay on topic, Rose, no worry, when Castiel comes back Dean will feel better because his BFF and brother/family comes back, despite his flesh and blood brother is with him for the whole time, silently suffering off screen! I doubt Dean will look more manly with Castiel than now (to stay on the topic, ha ha) Its a complete farce, the shipping and the innuendos from the writers!!!!
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Post by JazzBeePrime on Feb 7, 2012 16:20:12 GMT -5
I beg to differ. With his terminally macho facade, I feel that Dean might be over-compensating...in other words, he's trying to hide his gayness. LOL what macho facade, Aeryn? He hasn't exactly been the picture of manliness lately what with his moping about and self pity parties and his "oh I have it so bad" attitude and his softness. I still liked Ness telling him "boohoo" because that's exactly right. Boohoo, Dean. You're not the only one who has issues in life and who has lost people you love. You're 32-33 years old... grow up. Get over it and move on buddy. Oh and maybe acknowledge that your brother is going through some shit too instead of playing yourself the world's smallest violin for a change... x___x Oops, I got off-topic. Yeah, uh... Dean and Cas aren't a couple in the show. It's not canon therefore it shouldn't be getting really stupid, fucked up polls like this. Just sayin'. YUP, I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY. EXCEPT, REPLACE DEAN WITH SAM AND SELF-PITY ISSUES WITH DARKSIDE ISSUES OH YEA, I WENT THERE
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Post by Rose on Feb 7, 2012 17:20:38 GMT -5
LOL what macho facade, Aeryn? He hasn't exactly been the picture of manliness lately what with his moping about and self pity parties and his "oh I have it so bad" attitude and his softness. I still liked Ness telling him "boohoo" because that's exactly right. Boohoo, Dean. You're not the only one who has issues in life and who has lost people you love. You're 32-33 years old... grow up. Get over it and move on buddy. Oh and maybe acknowledge that your brother is going through some shit too instead of playing yourself the world's smallest violin for a change... x___x Oops, I got off-topic. Yeah, uh... Dean and Cas aren't a couple in the show. It's not canon therefore it shouldn't be getting really stupid, fucked up polls like this. Just sayin'. YUP, I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY. EXCEPT, REPLACE DEAN WITH SAM AND SELF-PITY ISSUES WITH DARKSIDE ISSUES OH YEA, I WENT THERE Oh yeah. You went there. It makes you so bad ass. I feel sorry for you, especially if you think it was going to rile me up. I've dealt with Sam bashing since I came into the fandom years ago. It honestly has no affect on me. I've seen much worse. Also, could you please stop typing in all caps? It feels like you're sitting around screaming to the top of your lungs your love for Dean or screaming at everybody on the forum you respond to.
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