2012 Presidential Election

[AntiArbitrator]

I voted today, courtesy of the early voting opportunity. There have been long lines at all of the early voting locations, and I am sure that is an indication of a lot of interest in this election. People who vote on November 6 should expect a large turn out.

The process was much improved this year. In the past, the list of voters was printed and separated into sections. Voters would stand in a line designated by the first letter of their last name. It sometimes took five minutes to locate the page with the name on it, and the delays were frequent and often. And we stood up the entire time.

Today, there was seating, and as the front row got in line, the next row moved up a row. The voting list was on computers and it took 15 seconds to print my voting authorization. Copies of the ballots were mailed to homes for prior review, so it took less than two minutes for me to vote and leave. Not a bad experience.

[Mistermoonlight]

I'm so glad that you did not have problems and were able to get it done so quickly, Anti, especially amidst the attempts to disenfranchise voters.

You did like Chicago mayor Richard Daly said, "vote early and vote often," except in his case I think he meant a few times in the same day, if you could.

[SoCal]

Nov 1, 2012 19:25:58 GMT -5 AntiArbitrator said:

I voted today, courtesy of the early voting opportunity. There have been long lines at all of the early voting locations, and I am sure that is an indication of a lot of interest in this election. People who vote on November 6 should expect a large turn out.

The process was much improved this year. In the past, the list of voters was printed and separated into sections. Voters would stand in a line designated by the first letter of their last name. It sometimes took five minutes to locate the page with the name on it, and the delays were frequent and often. And we stood up the entire time.

Today, there was seating, and as the front row got in line, the next row moved up a row. The voting list was on computers and it took 15 seconds to print my voting authorization. Copies of the ballots were mailed to homes for prior review, so it took less than two minutes for me to vote and leave. Not a bad experience.

Glad to hear you got your voting out of the way, Anti.

I will vote one Tuesday, if the democrat machine doesn't try to block the polling places with thugs carrying bats! They do their disenfranchisement the old fashioned way - by threat of violence.

[Mistermoonlight]

I think we all remember Florida.

Even if you only think you may be smarter than this guy, please vote!

Government wants us to think there's a hurricane.



New documentary trailer about the first of the rich white guys who have dictated to their employees 'either vote for Romney or you lose your job." :



Chances are, if you graduated from high school, you're probablysmarter than him too.

[SoCal]

Can we at least disenfranchise: dead people; illegals and voters registered in more than one state?

[SoCal]

"Hard working" union "members" getting paid to protest. Of course some SEIU organizers don't want some of their paid "members" to talk to the man taping them. How interesting:

[KyleEl]

My congressman isn't liberal enough. So what does the liberal Charlotte Observer do? Endorse his conservative opponent.

I don't know who they're endorsing for governor. Probably the man who was mayor longer than anyone else in Charlotte's history, even though he's more conservative now than he was. But I'm not voting for him. Republicans have wrecked this state. I even know one of our legislative candidates personally, but he's a Republican. I would vote for him, but you only get to vote for your own, not the rest of them. I want Democrats back to start spending money on schools and other areas where the conservatives have fallen short.

I can vote for Romney because a lot of issues should be handled on the local or state level, and maybe that can reduce the deficit. Like FEMA money, for example. Sure, the federal government should hand out the money, but those closest to what's going on should spend it. Mike Huckabee said The New York Times claims Romney wants to do away with FEMA. No, what he wants is what I just said.

Actually, there's another reason I don't want to vote for McCrory. His debate with Walter Dalton made me miss two episodes of "Jeopardy". I called one of the stations and was told the episode did air. I guess I should have called the station when it happened but I was afraid no one who could help would be there. But if I was fair Dalton wouldn't get my vote either. Whether the Libertarian was part of the debate I don't know. I don't even know if there is one.

[SoCal]

Revenge

By Jonah Goldberg

Hard to believe that the guy who promised to “punish our enemies” is now talking about voting for “revenge.”

If you watch the clip itself, it’s not clear at all what Obama’s supporters are supposed to want revenge for. Obama mentions Romney’s name in the context of his run for the Senate in Massachusetts — back when Romney was quite the moderate — and the audience starts to boo. Obama says “no, no. Don’t boo. Vote. Vote. Voting is the best revenge.” Revenge for what? Him running for the Senate? Revenge for Romney daring to challenge Obama? I understand Obama is bitter. That’s been obvious for a while. But it’s just a weird and narcissistic assumption that his supporters want “revenge” too. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, though. Which makes the whole thing even creepier.

Meanwhile, here’s Romney’s response:



Barry's a pig, a real pig. And he can't hide his thug SEIU background when it comes to a real election fight anymore.

Vote this pig out of office. He's disgraced it and us long enough.

[Mistermoonlight]

I'm sorry, but a guy who sees 47% of the country as leaches, who has specialized in Gordon Gecko-like tactics of breaking up Amerian companies, then selling them off, no matter the costs in jobs to Americans, and outsourcing those jobs to other countries? A guy that has elevators for his cars? In what nightmare does a guy like that have a chance against a man who served for little or no money as a community organizer, because he believes in higher ideals than making a buck.

A guy who alsao finally got Bin Laden, after 8 YEARS of Republican failure to do so? (Hint, you should looked at your 'partner' Pakistan instead of declaring the war over 'mission accomplished' in 2003)

Ya know, it's ironic that the one thing that the Fox News Channel reactionary conservatives want you to see, in spite of marketing themselves as 'fair and balanced' is anything that disagrees with that, or, in most cases the original video they are responding to. So all you get is the reaction to it. That's why they are known as reactionaries, rather than free thinkers.

You can take that with a bunch of grains of salt, from the rich CEOs who have told their employees that if you don't vote for Romney you're fired. to the ones who proclaim that in cases of rape women have no choice other than to have the baby (and there are loads of those.)

There are even those who have proclaimed that the big bang, evolution, and climate change are jokes. They think the world was created 9000 years ago.

So, it's time to decide. Are you a person who cares for education, and moving towards the 21st century, or would you rather be casting out demons?

Polls show that more Republicans believe in demons than believe in climate change.

Oh yeah, here's the quote by President Obama about 'revenge.' See how horrible it is.



This is the stuff Fox News doesn't want you to see, so don't tell them you watched. And if you're in New Jersey, by all means don't let them know you think Governor Chris Christie has done a good job and been a decent compassionate man.

In terms of education, these are people who are pretty back in the Stone Age. Most of the civilized world would be ashamed to be associated with the 'beliefs' they offer.

[Mistermoonlight]

The reasons for voting early may possibly include a cheeseburger.

[SoCal]

Townhall The Tipsheet Katie Pavlich

BREAKING: NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama
Katie Pavlich
News Editor, Townhall
Nov 03, 2012 05:46 PM EST
HOUSTON, TX - Friday afternoon at an early polling place located at 6719 W. Montgomery Road in Houston, NAACP members were seen advocating for President Barack Obama according to volunteer poll watchers on location at the time.

According to Eve Rockford, a poll watcher trained by voter integrity group True the Vote, three NAACP members showed up to the 139 precinct location with 50 cases of bottled water and began handing bottles out to people standing in line. While wearing NAACP labeled clothing, members were "stirring the crowd" and talking to voters about flying to Ohio to promote President Barack Obama.

After watching what was occurring, Rockford approached Polling Supervisor Rose Cochran about what she was seeing.

"I went to the polling supervisor and let her know that it was not appropriate that they were in the building handing out water. She ignored me. I repeated my statement. She told me that she would handle it. She did nothing. I then went to the assistant supervisor and he stood up, walked over to another table and then sat down. I then walked into the waiting room and they were reloading another dolly with more cases of water," Rockford said in a True the Vote incident report.

After handing out water and advocating for President Obama, the NAACP members started handpicking and moving people to the front of a long voting line inside the polling place according to the incident report. After multiple complaints from voters about the line cutting, Rockford received a phone call from downtown telling her to “stand down.”

“All of the sudden one of the clerks, Dayan Cohen, said that someone wanted to speak to me on the phone. It was someone from downtown. I got on the phone and she said she was from downtown and that I needed to stand down and that it was okay for the NAACP to be within 100 ft. and they could hand out water. I told her that the NAACP was inside the building, wearing the NAACP clothing and caps and were handing out water and moving people from the back of the lines to the front of the lines,” Rockford said.

At this point, NAACP members were instructed to turn their clothing inside out, which they refused to do and said they weren’t going to stop their actions inside the polling place. Their behavior and actions to move people to the front of the line continued for the rest of the evening. Texas State Representative Sylvester Turner, a former Texas NAACP leader, was also seen outside the building talking with voters.

“The NAACP basically ran this poll location and the judges did nothing about it,” Rockford said

[SoCal]

Bill Maher on HBO's Real Time Friday might have said one of the most disgraceful things uttered during the 2012 campaign season.

"If you're thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, I would like to make this one plea: black people know who you are and they will come after you" (video follows with commentary):


Imagine for a moment the outrage if a conservative commentator said even jokingly to Obama supporters, "White people know who you are and they will come after you."

That would be the end of that person's career. Period. No questions asked. Done!

But Maher who's adored by the Obama-loving media can say this with total impunity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: HBO should be ashamed to have this disgusting man as one of its on air personalities. Period. End of story.

[SoCal]

Biden needs a teleprompter, too, otherwise the shit pours from his mouth like diarhhea. What moron, what a disgrace:

[SoCal]

Obama Demonizes Tea Party in Final Days of Campaign
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by Tony Lee 3 Nov 2012, 10:35 AM PDT


After failing to mention the Tea Party by name on the stump in 2012, President Barack Obama mentioned the movement during at least five stump speeches on Thursday and Friday.
Running against the Tea Party movement that successfully stymied his grassroots agenda and energized conservatives and independents to give Republicans in the House a majority, Obama said Mitt Romney would "rubber-stamp the Tea Party agenda in Congress."

Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea Party Patriots, said Obama was continuing to divide Americans by badmouthing "millions of grassroots" Tea Party activists across the nation.

"In a single speech today, our current President demonized Americans who have achieved the American Dream and badmouthed millions of grassroots Tea Party activists in every state in the nation," Martin said on Thursday. "If he spent as much time uniting Americans as he does dividing Americans and attacking them, his presidency might have been a success."

Politico reviewed a transcript of all of Obama's speeches and found Obama had only mentioned "tea party" once -- in a campaign appearance in Virginia in October -- on the stump in 2012 before this week.
Obama cannot run on his accomplishments. His so-called agenda for a second term consists of campaign platitudes that were cut and pasted into a pamphlet. And after spending the better part of the campaign trying to tear down and run against Romney, Obama is now trying to run agains the Tea Party, which may be an admission that his silly attacks on Romney, which have included Big Bird, binders, and "Romnesia," have failed and turned off voters. So now Obama is trying a tactic that failed liberals during 2010's historic midterm election.

[SoCal]

[Mistermoonlight]

Nov 3, 2012 18:14:18 GMT -5 SoCal said:

Bill Maher on HBO's Real Time Friday might have said one of the most disgraceful things uttered during the 2012 campaign season.

"If you're thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, I would like to make this one plea: black people know who you are and they will come after you" (video follows with commentary):


Imagine for a moment the outrage if a conservative commentator said even jokingly to Obama supporters, "White people know who you are and they will come after you."

That would be the end of that person's career. Period. No questions asked. Done!

But Maher who's adored by the Obama-loving media can say this with total impunity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: HBO should be ashamed to have this disgusting man as one of its on air personalities. Period. End of story.

Again, Republicans don't seem to want you to see the original source material, but only their view of what your reaction should be. Here is the actual video from comedian and Democrat supporter Bill Maher, who also recently said more succinctly 'If Obama wins America wins, if Romney wins, comedy wins.'

So, to comedians there's no downside.



Kinda beats 'vote for Mitt Romney or you're fired,' doesn't it?

[SoCal]

And democrats seem to love to get their "comedy" and politcal directives from a "man" who calls women "c*nts. How enlightened of them.

[Mistermoonlight]

Actually, to think of it, Maher who is a comedian and scourge of the right wing, and also donated $1 million to the Obama campaign, said in response to the first debate 'it looks like they took all my million and spent it on weed."

Sigh, isn't this problematic, that you have a an Obama supporter who is able to make jokes about both sides? I know this is heretical behavior in current medieval times, but thank God for people like him, and free thinkers everywhere who refuse to let ditto-heads do it for them.

Here's some good stuff you might want to hear, too, heading into this election:

[SoCal]

1. I can always tell when a liberal democrat has run out of ideas when they resort to calling people "ditto-heads."

2. I wouldn't watch a Bill Maher video no matter how many times it's posted until he has apologized for calling women c-nts.

3. Any person relying on the above two methods of advancing his cause is doomed to failure.

[Mistermoonlight]

Does this mean you do the honorable thing and eschew Rush Limbough from having anything ever to do with Fox News politics again? Do you cast him into the pit?

I'll go one further. You wouldn't watch a Bill Maher video because right wing conservative reactionaries don't want you to--it threatens absolutely everything about women and science that their Pre-Stone Age beliefs represent, and not the least because it might be funny.

And if you laughed, you might have a problem coming up with all the hate that's necessary.

As far as the rest goes, we'll see on Tuesday.

[SoCal]

I find the above post to be:



I find your argument about eschewing anything Rush Limbaugh says completely specious and without merit. I would put Rush's grasp of facts and politics up against Bill Maher and Joe Biden anywhere, anytime.

The only thing I would cast into a pit of any kind is Bill Maher; a foul mouthed mysonginist who only seems to tolerate women who spew the same kind of filth that he does.

If you consider that honorable, I have to re-think my opinon of your character.

Bill Maher doesn't make me laugh, he makes me vomit.

And I find people who try to excuse his lapses in the same category as those who said of Adolph Hitler, 'Well, at least he got the trains to run on time and he built the auto-bahn.'

[Mistermoonlight]

I find these days that hate of those who think otherwise on issues is pretty predominant in the Republican party.

For example, how dare Chris Christie say that President Obama is doing a good job in relationship to the Hurricane Sandy clean-up? That's shocking enough that Rupert Murdoch, the head of Fox News (and head of a huge scandal regarding his company in Great Britain) demanded that Christie rescind his comments before the election.

Let's not have any other-thinking ,or individual opions, much less respect for them. Doesn't that sound either kind of Orwellian, or at least insecure? How can you actually have real ideas in the absence of any legitimate debate upon them? If you can't be wrong, and you refuse to discuss it, there is no debate. There's only the party line. And with this party, if you dissent you risk being called a 'Republican in Name Only' which is the new name for what we used to call moderates.

And god knows, we can't have that.

[SoCal]

Jeez, what the hell do you think you the f--king thought police? Can no one have an un-Moon thought lest they incur your wrath?


You'd be right at home in Orwell's 1984:

[Mistermoonlight]

No wrath. Only disagreement. Which is, of course, disallowed, in current Republican party practice. That may be why it seems so novel and disturbing.

[SoCal]

That's utter bullshit. Republicans had lots of disagreement during their primary process.

Why do you insist on repeating such utter nonsense? It only makes your arguments look weak.

What would be novel is your refraining from your constant reliance on democrat talking points. Or would that be wandering too far from your place of safety? Disturbing? Perhaps for you. Poor you.

[Mistermoonlight]

Hi folks, I want to encourage you, no matter who your candidate is, to get out there and vote today. It's important.

And I'd like to encourage you to vote as early as possible, as between natural disasters and voter supression efforts there are sometimes long lines to vote in key states. So, go prepared. And by all means participate.

We will give updates here throughout the night as to the latest results, so please join us on this thread, with your friends, and let us know what's going on in your area.

[Dislekseyuh]

After looking through this thread, I have to say that it is more important than ever that I express to people how important it is to pay greater attention to state and local elections.

This thread has been very reflective of the general masses -- thinking far too much about the national election, and treating the president as if he has supreme power over everything. The things that will actually affect your day to day life will occur on the state and local level. Pay attention to who's running for Senate, Congress, Mayor, local judges, you get the idea.

Mitten's magical Mormon underwear and Obama's black Jesus powers aren't that important in the grand scheme. People need to get off of the "president is a dictator" Koolaid.

[AntiArbitrator]

In addition to the election of government officials, there were very important proposals on our ballot that affect our state and local jurisdictions. So far, there has been a 68% turnout statewide. Hours to go... hours to go.

[Dislekseyuh]

That is correct, AntiArbitor. Take a long, careful look at all the proposals on your ballot, and always try to learn as much about them as possible beforehand.

[Mistermoonlight]

In the state I live in, Alabama, the Republican Party is having a "victory party" tonight in Birmingham at a firing range and gun shop:

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (Reuters) - Alabama may not be a battleground state but its Republicans will be armed for victory on Tuesday night.

The party, which dominates local politics and is a champion of gun rights, will hold its main election night celebration at a firing range and gun shop on the outskirts of Birmingham.

"It is consistent with our philosophy to celebrate in a place that sells guns. A gun is a way to protect yourself and to hunt, a great Alabama sport," said Bill Armistead, chairman of the Alabama Republican Party.

articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-05/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-alabamabre8a501a-20121105_1_range-and-gun-shop-election-night-champion-of-gun-rights

So now you see the kind of stuff I put up with on a daily basis here.

I wonder what they're gonna do with those guns if the election doesn't go their way . . .