7.14 “Plucky Pennywhistle’s Magic Menagerie” Sneak

[shadowhund]

Sneak Peak is out for SPN S7 E14


supernaturalfansonline.com/2012/02/05/7-14-plucky-pennywhistles-magic-menagerie-sneak-peek/

Can somebody please write what they talked, especially Dean said a lot I didn't understand, about egg-man,babies and hot chicks and....specially the last part, but better all of it!

[percysowner]

Dean tells Frank yes this is the egg man. Frank come up with another celebrity that he thinks is a Levi (Fred Savage). Later Dean says that he is tired of the code word of the day, so it looks like Frank is changing code words daily to make certain he is talking to real Sam and Dean and not Leviathan clones. Dean then asks if there is any sign of Wonder Woman and Sam says no, the Amazons are gone, but there is a case in Kansas. Dean says lets follow that but this time no babies, no baby mamas, no bars, no booze no hot chicks. Sam is amused and Dean says hey you have a monster baby and see how fast you want to jump back into the pool.

This is not the exact quote, but the general gist of the conversation.

[shadowhund]

Thank you Percy!

But why says Dean how fast he wants to jump back to the pool? The pool like a swimming pool why would he jump into it? Or did he mean a pool of people in a bar? See thats sometimes my problem while watching SPN in original!

[percysowner]

There is an American phrase "dating pool". Jumping into the dating pool means starting to date again after you haven't dated new people for a while. So Dean is saying he doesn't want to try dating new women after the monster baby fiasco.

[shadowhund]

aaahh, thank you, now I understand the phrase . That's why I am hoping that Robin at the WFB forum still writes her recaps, I miss some talks, sentences and words and then I might understand some things not right! Thank you again!

[SoCal]

I dunno.....the preview for this episode looked awfully.....brightly colorful. I hope they do it right.

[JazzBeePrime]

thank you for posting the preview

ok, now see? that's the type of brotherly banting i'm talking about.

oh how i missed smartass sam and snarky dean. can we just keep them this way for the rest of the season?

[benson35]

So do you think the boys have different cars?

And I heard that maybe we'll see Deans childhood fear which is loosing Sam. I'd love Sams crazy fear of clows actually manifest itself out as actually loosing his father and brother and is still around because of Dean. I think young Sam would of been terrified to loose his family especially Dean....

[JazzBeePrime]

i hope they don't give them seperate cars again. that didn't go over well the first time they tried it. speaking of cars, WHEN THE HELL ARE THEY BRINGING BABY BACK!? she IS a winchester,afetr all

i agree benson, i think sam's biggest fear is also losing his family, of losing his brother. maybe that fear just manifests thru his fear of clowns? i just can't see a childhood fear of clowns being the sole cause of sam finally beginning to lose his grasp on sanity. i have a feeling that, like dean, sam is truly afraid of losing his brother.

[benson35]

Oh god when that car comes back it is going to be epic. When a 5 year old comes in and says, Where has their car gone! You know it is definately part of a show and one of the best parts lol.

It is a genuine fear and they never play it up. They seem to deal things out and not allow each boy to have the same feelings or fear. Its weird. Both of them can't be angry or sad at the same time. But surely they'd both have the same fear.

I just feel for a rational person like Sam that behind that childhood fear its his Dad and Dean not coming back from hunts and now its still there because of Dean. Or the fact that he needs them..needs Dean still. I just want them to be able to play up that they both are in the same boat of wanting and needing each other, always not just now but always.

[JazzBeePrime]

i completely agree benson. we've seen snippets of the same fear in both boys. it's overly obvious that its dean's biggest fear. we've seen flashes that it's also sam's. "i'm not leaving my brother alone out there", his quest for vengeance on lilith, locking dean in the panic room to keep him safe from michael (ponr),etc.

i suspect that we'll see that fear when sam loses his sanity. there was a spoiler awhile back that said that sam will make a decision that affects dean, during sam's mental breakdown. given more thought, it made me wonder if maybe sam checks himself into an asylum to keep not just everyone around him safe, but to keep his brother safe.

[benson35]

Well if the 'rumor' is right and we see Deans fear as loosing Sam and quite rightly so, I can see that as a sudo parent, brother, protector, friend and all that and I love that...I kind of hate the fact that they'd play up Sams child hood fear and that wouldn't be loosing Dean.

I'd say Sam would do that...but sometimes us as fans thinking that would be a natural progression for these characters doesn't always match what the writers convaluted story will be...sigh.

'We' know about Sams feelings but we also had that heaven episode and it was mostly Sam wanting to be else where, when we know how much he loved Dean....it would be nice to actually allow Dean to actively see that as well.

[benson35]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxgHY7AXIHs

Poor baby. Love love love these brotherly moments, just the two of them that know of this phobia and the teasing and its cute and I still hope it turns out to be a very brotherly episode...please!

[SoCal]

I think "Mystery Spot" plays more into Sam's fears about losing Dean than anything else. Remember the 3 months he hunted alone? How sphinx like his face looked, how worried Bobby was about him? I think he realizes that without Dean beside him, he becomes more of a killing machine, that Dean keeps him grounded. And what did he do after Dean died in "No Rest For the Wicked?" He drank heavily and tried to make a deal with any demon to get Dean out of Hell. Then he fell in with Ruby and started down that dark path.
Dean has made it clear from the first season that family was all important to him: "You and Dad are all I got." He needs Sam to keep him from going off a cliff. Who did he seek out when his dad "went on a hunting trip and hasn't been heard from in a few weeks?" Who did he turn to? Sam, his last link to his family. Not Bobby, not Pastor Jim, etc.
They need each other and are at their best together. Apart...not so much.
At least that's how I see it.

[benson35]

Exactly SoCal. I would love that to be a given with the two of them and for that to kind of be the underlying reason and Dean see that and know that his brother would hate to loose him...kind of like 'just don't die' and Dean hearing it but not really 'hearing' it! if you know what I mean.

He needs to really know that this one person relys on you, loves you and wants you safe just as much as you want him o.k. and want to be here for him.

You want a reason to live and a reason why you do what you do Dean...well there he is, your brother looks up to you, admires you and needs and wants you around with him to keep him whole to keep the hope in a way that their lives are o.k.

[SoCal]

Maybe the evil clowns in this next episode will be the boys "Aha!" moment!

[JazzBeePrime]

dammit, why just clowns? why couldn't the boys be trapped on an airplane with clowns,suicidal teddy bears and the snuggles fabric softner bear (which dean has still yet to hunt that little bitch down )

[Rose]

Feb 7, 2012 20:23:06 GMT -5 SoCal said:

I think "Mystery Spot" plays more into Sam's fears about losing Dean than anything else. Remember the 3 months he hunted alone? How sphinx like his face looked, how worried Bobby was about him? I think he realizes that without Dean beside him, he becomes more of a killing machine, that Dean keeps him grounded. And what did he do after Dean died in "No Rest For the Wicked?" He drank heavily and tried to make a deal with any demon to get Dean out of Hell. Then he fell in with Ruby and started down that dark path.
Dean has made it clear from the first season that family was all important to him: "You and Dad are all I got." He needs Sam to keep him from going off a cliff. Who did he seek out when his dad "went on a hunting trip and hasn't been heard from in a few weeks?" Who did he turn to? Sam, his last link to his family. Not Bobby, not Pastor Jim, etc.
They need each other and are at their best together. Apart...not so much.
At least that's how I see it.

He hunted alone for six months, not three.

What's so wrong with Sam actually having something for himself for once? Are you people never fucking satisfied? Dean got his big time travel back to the 40s episode. God forbid Sam gets an episode to himself about something that touches on him or his own fears.

[benson35]

Oh yes Rose its all about Sam having his own storyline. See some of here think that no matter what both boys storylines intertwine and end up connecting to each other. And his fear about loosing his family when he was young and now his brother are HIS fears to deal with....so I'd say this was his story.

Are you not satisfied that THIS particular story is about both brothers. Its a pity you never see that.

Its always about splitting storylines and how much time someone has on film. Dean didn't get his travel episode it was also Sams...did you not see the episode!

[Rose]

Feb 7, 2012 23:17:17 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh yes Rose its all about Sam having his own storyline. See some of here think that no matter what both boys storylines intertwine and end up connecting to each other. And his fear about loosing his family when he was young and now his brother are HIS fears to deal with....so I'd say this was his story.

Are you not satisfied that THIS particular story is about both brothers. Its a pity you never see that.

Its always about splitting storylines and how much time someone has on film. Dean didn't get his travel episode it was also Sams...did you not see the episode!

I never once said anything like that. I think it's just crap that some people will cheer and be happy when Dean gets storylines of his own to himself, but when it comes time for just one episode about Sam or regarding Sam, they whine and moan and complain "WHY CAN'T IT BE ABOUT BOTH BROTHERS!" etc... I don't mind seeing their stories intertwined as long as Sam is being paid attention to as well and he hasn't been. I've always wondered where Sam's fear of clowns stemmed from and what happened to cause him to fear clowns. Why is that so wrong that I'd like to see an episode focus on Sam for a change? I didn't say the whole fucking season.

[spoilerwolf]

Feb 7, 2012 23:32:12 GMT -5 Rose said:

Feb 7, 2012 23:17:17 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh yes Rose its all about Sam having his own storyline. See some of here think that no matter what both boys storylines intertwine and end up connecting to each other. And his fear about loosing his family when he was young and now his brother are HIS fears to deal with....so I'd say this was his story.

Are you not satisfied that THIS particular story is about both brothers. Its a pity you never see that.

Its always about splitting storylines and how much time someone has on film. Dean didn't get his travel episode it was also Sams...did you not see the episode!

I never once said anything like that. I think it's just crap that some people will cheer and be happy when Dean gets storylines of his own to himself, but when it comes time for just one episode about Sam or regarding Sam, they whine and moan and complain "WHY CAN'T IT BE ABOUT BOTH BROTHERS!" etc... I don't mind seeing their stories intertwined as long as Sam is being paid attention to as well and he hasn't been. I've always wondered where Sam's fear of clowns stemmed from and what happened to cause him to fear clowns. Why is that so wrong that I'd like to see an episode focus on Sam for a change? I didn't say the whole fucking season.

Word. Thank you!

[DeanandSam]

I loved Dean's "Sammy" Aww, I feel bad for Sam, I wonder if his insomnia starts out in this episode or the episodes after it.

[percysowner]

Well the idea is this goes back to CHILDHOOD fears. Sam really didn't know that Dean and John were in any danger until he was nine. I'm guessing his fear of clowns started when he was much younger. Dean OTOH learned that people could die at age four and he was told to take care of Sam at a young age, so he had reason to fear losing Sam as a young child.

I truly believe that Sam's worst fear NOW is to lose Dean, but it sounds like whatever is affecting people is picking up on those fears people started when they were kids. Some people fear things that aren't usually dangerous. I have a friend who is afraid of butterflies for example. Sam was scared by a clown when he was little and it is an irrational, but powerful fear. Dean was scared that Sam would die when he ran out of the house with him. His fear is rational and still powerful.

[JazzBeePrime]

i would sure like to know where in this thread you see ANYONE saying sam cant have something for himself, or even saying anything remotely against sam. since this show is about 2 (count them, 2) brothers, their storylines are ALWAYS going to intersect. this isnt the dean show, and it sure as hell isnt the sam show. it's the winchester brothers show. whether we like it or not, dean has the overall pov and sam the overall storyarc. if someone wants all dean or all sam all the time, go read fanfic. the rest of us will happily continue to watch the show about 2 BROTHERS.

[Rose]

Feb 7, 2012 23:37:12 GMT -5 percysowner said:

Well the idea is this goes back to CHILDHOOD fears. Sam really didn't know that Dean and John were in any danger until he was nine. I'm guessing his fear of clowns started when he was much younger. Dean OTOH learned that people could die at age four and he was told to take care of Sam at a young age, so he had reason to fear losing Sam as a young child.

I truly believe that Sam's worst fear NOW is to lose Dean, but it sounds like whatever is affecting people is picking up on those fears people started when they were kids. Some people fear things that aren't usually dangerous. I have a friend who is afraid of butterflies for example. Sam was scared by a clown when he was little and it is an irrational, but powerful fear. Dean was scared that Sam would die when he ran out of the house with him. His fear is rational and still powerful.

Where did I ever once say that it wasn't? I was just pointing out that I'd like to know what happened to Sam as a child to make him so scared of clowns and why it's so wrong that I'd like an episode focused on him for a change. Like for example, my cousin was babysitting me when I was just a 4 yr old kid and made me watch It with him. Later on, he dressed up as a clown and chased me around because he thought it'd be funny to scare me. I've been genuinely terrified of clowns ever since, so how did Sam become scared? We already know why and how Dean's worst fear is Sam dying. I want to know more things about Sam, and I don't see why that's wrong...

[DeanandSam]

Feb 7, 2012 23:37:29 GMT -5 JazzBeePrime said:

i would sure like to know where in this thread you see ANYONE saying sam cant have something for himself, or even saying anything remotely against sam. since this show is about 2 (count them, 2) brothers, their storylines are ALWAYS going to intersect. this isnt the dean show, and it sure as hell isnt the sam show. it's the winchester brothers show. whether we like it or not, dean has the overall pov and sam the overall storyarc. if someone wants all dean or all sam all the time, go read fanfic. the rest of us will happily continue to watch the show about 2 BROTHERS.

Co-signed

[benson35]

Feb 7, 2012 23:32:12 GMT -5 Rose said:

Feb 7, 2012 23:17:17 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Oh yes Rose its all about Sam having his own storyline. See some of here think that no matter what both boys storylines intertwine and end up connecting to each other. And his fear about loosing his family when he was young and now his brother are HIS fears to deal with....so I'd say this was his story.

Are you not satisfied that THIS particular story is about both brothers. Its a pity you never see that.

Its always about splitting storylines and how much time someone has on film. Dean didn't get his travel episode it was also Sams...did you not see the episode!

I never once said anything like that. I think it's just crap that some people will cheer and be happy when Dean gets storylines of his own to himself, but when it comes time for just one episode about Sam or regarding Sam, they whine and moan and complain "WHY CAN'T IT BE ABOUT BOTH BROTHERS!" etc... I don't mind seeing their stories intertwined as long as Sam is being paid attention to as well and he hasn't been. I've always wondered where Sam's fear of clowns stemmed from and what happened to cause him to fear clowns. Why is that so wrong that I'd like to see an episode focus on Sam for a change? I didn't say the whole fucking season.

Just because YOU dont' see it about Sam doesn't mean it isn't there. Because I see it is about Sam. I saw Sam in Time after Time and I loved his role it was amazing and sweet and BA.

I'm saying Sam's fear of Clowns might be about his fear of loosing his family manifested in some fear of something irrational coming for him like a clown...as a kid he could of been alone without his dad and Dean and the clown came. And now the fear is still there because he's still afraid of loosing Dean.

Instead of a clown scaring him in a movie or at a fair or whatever. I'd love it if Sam had something that could bring him around to his fear of loosing his brother and show it come out like that. Since Dean does worry about his brother it would be nice to come to the conclusion they hey...his brother worries just as much about him.

[Rose]

Feb 7, 2012 23:45:44 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Feb 7, 2012 23:32:12 GMT -5 Rose said:

I never once said anything like that. I think it's just crap that some people will cheer and be happy when Dean gets storylines of his own to himself, but when it comes time for just one episode about Sam or regarding Sam, they whine and moan and complain "WHY CAN'T IT BE ABOUT BOTH BROTHERS!" etc... I don't mind seeing their stories intertwined as long as Sam is being paid attention to as well and he hasn't been. I've always wondered where Sam's fear of clowns stemmed from and what happened to cause him to fear clowns. Why is that so wrong that I'd like to see an episode focus on Sam for a change? I didn't say the whole fucking season.

Just because YOU dont' see it about Sam doesn't mean it isn't there. Because I see it is about Sam. I saw Sam in Time after Time and I loved his role it was amazing and sweet and BA.

I'm saying Sam's fear of Clowns might be about his fear of loosing his family manifested in some fear of something irrational coming for him like a clown...as a kid he could of been alone without his dad and Dean and the clown came. And now the fear is still there because he's still afraid of loosing Dean.

Instead of a clown scaring him in a movie or at a fair or whatever. I'd love it if Sam had something that could bring him around to his fear of loosing his brother and show it come out like that. Since Dean does worry about his brother it would be nice to come to the conclusion they hey...his brother worries just as much about him.

I see things my own way and I have my opinion based on certain things. I'm sorry that you don't like it. If you don't like it, why do you bother quoting and responding to me? Because whatever you have to try and shove down my throat this time, it won't make me change my opinion. That's up to the writers. Not you or anybody else. I can't help the way I feel or see things. I just do. I'm sorry that the way I feel or the way my own observations are on this show bothers you so much.

[JazzBeePrime]

as for samcentric epis, believe it or not, we have had those

mystery spot

swap meat

swan song

i know what you did last summer

after school special

hunted

[Rose]

*facepalm* I have not ever once said we've never had Sam-centric episodes... Fucking hell... I'm out of here. I'm tired of being shit on because I have a separate opinion from the likes of you people and because I don't agree with you. What the fuck ever.