Destiel Haters Harassing/Sending Tweets

[isitfridayyet]

Feb 12, 2012 4:51:40 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Do I have to bring out the rape analogy? So its the victims fault now? Hmm interesting train of thought.

How did I not read this properly? Who exactly were you talking to? You posted right after me..quoted no one.

[JazzBeePrime]

i just cruised past the eonline site to check out the poll. omg , either the gleesters are desperate for votes, or the anti-destiel people are desperate to keep them from winning at all costs (could be a combo of both). i guess someone mustve gotten into the voting screen because in less then 2 minutes (i kid you not) destiel went from 45.3 to 49.9 and the glee couple went from 46.5 to 46.7. this whole thing is just freaking hilarious frankly, i could care less who wins this goofy poll. i just want it to end soon, so we can all move on to far more important things. yno, like what's going on in the storyarc, what's happening with the boys, will dean ever get to eat some pie, will sam ever lose those sideburns. i think those things far outweigh a goofy poll.

[isitfridayyet]

I want to see a poll where we ship Sam with Unicorns and Dean with pie. That's about as serious as this poll SHOULD be.

[benson35]

I guess someone is doing something. But I'd expect Glee to win only they have 10 x the fans that Destiel fans have and Supernatural fans that care will vote against Dean/Cas. j/s

Funny though we have grown ass women getting up at 2am to vote against 12 year olds lol. Oh this side of the fandom will never cease to amaze and then they call them, 12 year olds, cheaters and spam them lol.

[isitfridayyet]

who are the 12 year olds voting? You must know them personally to know their age.

are you voting against it? you're putting in far more effort than me!

Do you think if Destiel wins it will become canon? No more than Faberry winning will make it canon.

What's the big deal? Please let me know! Why does Kim need to be bothered with tweets? What will happen if Destiel wins? Please let me know how the show will be ruined! I just don't understand!

[benson35]

I don't know them. This is what those 'Destiel' shippers are saying. So I'm just going by that since they love to make everything that probably isn't true canon lol.

Nah I'm over it. I just hope the Glee fandom win is all.

Oh god Destiel think its already canon. Its about as canon as Dean hating Sam.

Hey I've seen Glee, Faberry could possibly become canon...there are way more sexual twist and turns in that show than I ever thought possible.

Maybe because these guys were tweeted to retweet a poll between two characters that aren't together, and never would be together. Its got nothing to do with Castiel, he's inconsequential to this. Its Dean...he's a great character, Jensen has made him great...this sticks, these fans are out of control. I saw the convention...asking the two leads about if they thought they treated Castiel right at the end...huh. And one of them in Jensens m&g said to him it was all Deans fault that Castiel went off the rails because he went with Lisa....

They push the envelope for something in their heads. The fact that he's back...puts the boys especially Dean 2 steps back. The character is over, done with. Dean as a character should be able to hate him and hate what he did and move the heck on fighting the next big bad. Like the YED, like Lilith. j/s...I like a story to move forward.

[isitfridayyet]

Ok let's be real. Dean will NEVER hate Cas. Hoping that Cas is coming back so Dean can kill him..not happening. Also not happening is Destiel shippers stopping shipping. Is it wrong for them to ask the actors about it? OF COURSE. Shipping is a fandom thing and should stay there. Do I think the actors care? No. They, and we, know what goes on out there. I don't think Destiel shippers should ask Jensen about that anymore than they should ask him about Wincest. It's not canon. WE know it's not. Let's agree on that. Holy shit. We agree. Let's put a pin in that. It may not happen again.

My point is, it's a poll. Now keep in mind, not all Destiel shippers voted against SPN. As a matter of fact, most of the ones I know still like and watch the show. We need to avoid generalizations. It's simply unfair. You, by admission, are a bibro fan. So, should I assume that you LOVE Wincest because some bibro fans love Wincest? No, I shouldn't. It's out there. It happens. It's not going anywhere. Best we can do is turn the other cheek and not let it bother us. Trust me, the actors aren't phased. Why? They know even though those things happen, the majority of our fandom loves and supports them. That's what matters most to the actors.

[benson35]

I think he will hate Castiel. If he doesn't after all he did and after that year he lied and manipulated them and then what he did to Sam....if he doesn't then that is a disgrace. Castiel has done nothing for him that he should of done without a second thought if he was a friend.

Of course Dean should kill him...he's already wanted to kill him in the beginning of the season. I think the actors do care. That question at the con and other questions like that at other conventions is evident of that. 'that isn't what this show is about' answer from Jensen a year or so ago...tells you that yea he pretty much cares.

I didn't think Bi-bro meant wincest. Bi-brother, bromance. how is that even sexual, so no I'm not wincest, since I'm not into any incest. Do they think the majority supports them. Because I'm not so sure. On the internet of course. I think those off this crazy internet fandom don't even think that much about Castiel and him not being there. They're in it for the Sam and Dean story...well thats my experience anyhow.

I wish I was like them. I feel I got sucked in because of Sam and Dean then more interest in the J's now I'm here. I don't even think I'd know Misha's name if there was no internet.

[isitfridayyet]

See what I mean? You misunderstand everything I post! I never said bi-bro means wincest. I said some bi-bro fans enjoy wincest, so should I assume all bi-bro fans enjoy wincest? The answer is no. I said this in response to you CONSTANTLY lumping all Cas fans together as psycho people and Destiel shippers. We're not all cut from the same block you know.

If you think Cas is coming back for Dean to hate and kill him, you will be disappointed. I'm confident. Sorry.

I'm going to bed. I tried to hash it out..but it seems that we're never going to find any mutual ground. Apparently you view me as someone who only likes Cas, isn't a real fan of SPN, and ships Destiel. I've wasted my breath far too much on these conversations it seems. Have a good night.

[benson35]

Bi-bro fans enjoy wincest? I honestly did not know this. Maybe I would of called myself something else so they'd be no confusion lol.

I think Dean should hate him. Will he....I can't think he will not because of what he did to Sam and what has happened to Bobby.

Oh no maybe you should think of it this way...that I put faith in you that if you are not a Destiel shipper or a crazy fan then YOU will know that. See if someone uses bi-bro as a wincest fan (not you, others) then I wouldn't even remotely think thats me. Because I know me...so I wouldn't think they were talking about me.

Its like I barrack for a football team that has a generalisation that is we are hi-brow, lawyers, doctors and have money....well that ain't me...I just laugh I don't need to elaborate because I know that that isn't me. I say I hate one teams supporters well that isn't going to be true for real because I have family that support that said team.

Its just a generalisation and I respect people enough to know that they'd seperate themselves from something that isn't them.

[Lostcause]

I think regardles of how different you might feel to a wincest fan, you'll have to accept they will put themselves in at least one category you share with them:

Liking both brothers.
That's a category I think the far majority if not all of us fall under, regardless of a favouritsm to one brohter or the other, or a third person all together.

Being a fan of Wincest is a subcategory to the above. That doesn't mean everyone falls into this particular subcategory. Just as Destiel shippers fall into a subcategory of Cas and/or Dean fans.

Should the majority stop calling themselves Bi-bro fans or fan of both, simply because a minority may share that notion, and Wincest to boot? Not a chance I say!

Should a Cas fan stop naming themselves a Cas fan just because some are seeing Destiel notions or maybe even just enjoy playing with the thought in some alternate universe daydream? Not a chance I say.

We simply accept that we share some terms with eachother across the fandom, and certainly not others.

By the way, very happy to see the respectful yet disagreeing tone in the other thread. Forget if you have the karma thing on, but exalts to you both - keep it up!

[benson35]

We simply accept that we share some terms with eachother across the fandom, and certainly not others.


Hmm this is just too damn sensible.

Thanks LC. I just hope Friday knows that her words actually did make an impression on me. She's gone now I just wanted her to know that no matter what, I do listen when I things make sense. We might not agree on the story motivation or where it should or could go with one particular character, but I never wanted her to not be a fan of said character (like I had the right anyway).

I just want that said character gone for my enjoyment to continue lol....just had to get in that dig lol...

[jensenRick]

Feb 11, 2012 20:55:21 GMT -5 Mistermoonlight said:

Then let me suggest some action. Start a 'no reposting of public internet posts' movement. You might start in China, where it's easier.

quoted for truth

[jensenRick]

Feb 12, 2012 4:41:01 GMT -5 isitfridayyet said:

If liking Castiel makes me a douchebag then fine. I don't tweet obsessively about any poll. I don't send hateful tweets to anyone. I also don't accuse people of being things that they are not. I have not sent a single tweet to anyone suggesting that they vote for this poll, but apparently liking Castiel makes me a Destiel fan to some. Oh well!

Look, I'm content with everything. I love EVERY character and actor on this show. I am happy that I don't spend my time radiating constant negativity because I have irrational hate towards something fictional. However, I DO refuse to roll over and take it up the ass when posters continually bash Cas fans as a whole and accuse me of things I am not. So, the extreme Dean fans who talk shit on Sam..should we assume ALL Dean fans hate Sam? Some bibro fans love Wincest. Should I assume all bibro fans love Wincest? Logically, no..I should not. But, if I am to be accused of being a Destiel fan because I love Castiel and Destiel doesn't bother me, I guess I should start treating all other fans as Wincest fans. That's fair right?

No. I won't do that. I'll go ahead and treat every poster as an individual as they deserve. I'll continue liking and respecting all other CSS members who don't attack myself and other Cas fans on a regular basis even though they don't agree with us. MOST people here are awesome, and that's why I stay.

Logical people know what was tweeted to Kim Rhodes above was effed up...just as Destiel fans who demand that Cas be brought back with rude messages to actors/writers/producers are effed up. As Moon said, once you tweet something, that shit is public. If you don't like it being reblogged in tumblr over 100 times and getting rude disapproving tweets, use better sense.

AWESOME post!

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 12, 2012 5:00:45 GMT -5 JazzBeePrime said:

frankly, i could care less who wins this goofy poll. i just want it to end soon, so we can all move on to far more important things. yno, like what's going on in the storyarc, what's happening with the boys, will dean ever get to eat some pie, will sam ever lose those sideburns. i think those things far outweigh a goofy poll.

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 12, 2012 5:03:49 GMT -5 isitfridayyet said:

I want to see a poll where we ship Sam with Unicorns and Dean with pie. That's about as serious as this poll SHOULD be.

[jensenRick]

Feb 12, 2012 5:00:45 GMT -5 JazzBeePrime said:

frankly, i could care less who wins this goofy poll. i just want it to end soon, so we can all move on to far more important things. yno, like what's going on in the storyarc, what's happening with the boys, will dean ever get to eat some pie, will sam ever lose those sideburns. i think those things far outweigh a goofy poll.

How DARE you!? Sam must NEVER lose the sideburns- for they are getting ready to take over the EARTH! They are the true OVERLORDS!

NOW, you have done it! Now I'm going to tweet ALL the actors and producers and insist that they stop FORCING their look-ist issues onto Sam, and therefore Jared because this means they are DISRESPECTING him.

(for those who can't decipher sarcasm, the above was all a JOKE. Put "joke" into google if you need a definition)

P.S. - Jazz, I totally agree with you that I'll be glad when this poll is OVER, we have much more important things to talk about, like how AWESOME this week's episode was.

[Lostcause]

Feb 12, 2012 10:53:28 GMT -5 jensenRick said:

Feb 11, 2012 21:59:02 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Fun Fact...Mags actually is a Cas fan (or rather was, maybe).

I'd counter with actual facts about her smug self-righteousness and hypocrisy, but I'm trying to remember my "bark less, wag more" philosophy. It is interesting that this latest tweet shows she hasn't changed.

That tweet was from Mags? As in Magoghair?

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 12, 2012 11:10:05 GMT -5 Lostcause said:

Feb 12, 2012 10:53:28 GMT -5 jensenRick said:

I'd counter with actual facts about her smug self-righteousness and hypocrisy, but I'm trying to remember my "bark less, wag more" philosophy. It is interesting that this latest tweet shows she hasn't changed.

That tweet was from Mags? As in Magoghair?

Yes.

[Aeryn]

Feb 12, 2012 4:51:40 GMT -5 benson35 said:

Do I have to bring out the rape analogy? So its the victims fault now? Hmm interesting train of thought.

Wow. Just...wow.

[Lostcause]

Feb 12, 2012 12:37:59 GMT -5 purpledragon1229 said:

Feb 12, 2012 11:10:05 GMT -5 Lostcause said:

That tweet was from Mags? As in Magoghair?

Yes.

Holy Man of bat!

There is a sad irony, that in being so extreme opposite to Kristyhobbs, she has gone full circle and mimic her actions in a scary way.

I'm just glad she chose to not have any association with The Evicted. Thanks for that Mags - and shame on you, so very much.

[davidhayes1956]

As to the discussion on page one of this topic about quoting tweets, material posted on the internet is considered PUBLISHED, and published works are subject to being quoted. If you don't want to be quoted, don't publish your thoughts. Being misquoted or quoted out of context is something entirely different.

[Lostcause]

It's not only considered public, it's also something you as a user sign on to agree with, when you register.

Though admittedly it's the fewest who read the terms of agreement before checking the "I agree" box, I'm sure.

[Mistermoonlight]

Feb 12, 2012 13:21:59 GMT -5 @davidhayes1956 said:

As to the discussion on page one of this topic about quoting tweets, material posted on the internet is considered PUBLISHED, and published works are subject to being quoted. If you don't want to be quoted, don't publish your thoughts. Being misquoted or quoted out of context is something entirely different.

Excellent point, Dave. As writers we both know this.

Once you publish something on the internet it's essentially out of your control.

And even more important for writers, by doing so you've given up first publication rights for creative material. So, if you're a serious writer, NEVER post something on the internet if you're planning to submit it for serious publication.

And, as for Twitter, you can't 'take back' a Tweet and eliminate it. Once it's posted it's out there for the entire world to do with as they may.

I'm sure Gilbert Gottried wishes no one had reposted, or even seen his internet Tweets too.

www.tmz.com/2011/03/14/gilbert-gottfried-fired-aflac-japan-earthquake-twitter-tweets/

[pentadactyl]

I've been steadfastly avoiding the threads upon threads about destiel and this damn poll (isn't it over yet?!). But this one managed to catch my attention, if only so long that I could regret that I spent any time on it.

Anyway, I'll say my piece and go back to ignoring this thread again:

1) I looked up the twitter exchange and I think calling it harassment is a massive exaggeration. For one thing, only part of the conversation has been relayed here.

It started, apparently, with Kim Rhodes retweeting

@kimrhodes4real Hey Kim, could you do us DeanCas fans a favor and bump this for some votes? eonline.com/news/watch_wit… Losing to Glee = no way!

That was followed by this conversation:

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real #RespectJensen stop promoting and forcing Destiel gay porn on him. stop forcing it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm totally lost. What???

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel is fanfic about Dean and Cas in a Gay relationship...Dean isnt gay,and neither is Jensen. Jensen doesnt deserve it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm still lost as to how I'm promoting it. I write a blog that has never put Jensen anywhere near a penis.

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel fans have been disrespectful in trying to force it on Jensen. Asking him about it at cons,and making these polls

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 Oooooooh. Got it. All I saw was that Glee was beating SPN. Sorry. Won't do it again.

waywardangels: @kimrhodes4real I am so, so sorry that you're getting so much flack over the E! Online poll. I hope you don't think less of the fans. =\

Kim Rhodes: @waywardangels If I have learned ANYTHING by now, it's that SPN fans are passionate. Sometimes about different things. ;-)

Leaving out the rest of the conversation is misleading. I know I was mislead by it. Leaving out the rest of the conversation covers up the fact that (a) this wasn't unprovoked badgering and was in response to a specific tweet, (b) that Kim Rhodes responses were less likely out of outrage (which is what it seemed like from the snippet) and more likely from confusion, and (c) that it was peacefully resolved.

I'm not saying anything about the larger discussion about the tact, or lack thereof, of this post or for that matter the poll itself. To paraphrase Leo McGarry, the length of that conversation far exceeds my interest in it. But let's at least represent all parties honestly.


2) Regarding accountability for what you post off-site, I think either way works, but we need to be consistent. On CWL, as far as I know, it was seen as in bad form. What people post elsewhere was their business. But if you want to go with something different on this site, I see nothing wrong with it and I can roll with that too.

3) Given all the fuss made about how slash is in response to the lack of genuine gay couples on screen, I find it funny that the (from what I understand) only canon gay pairing is losing badly to the (from what I understand) two non-canon pairings. I'd say this casts serious doubt on the argument that slash exists to compensate for ingrained homophobia in media.

4) I don't know what faberry is but it sounds like the next health craze. Acai berry, gogi berry, faberry.

5) Rape analogies need their own Godwin's law. You bring up rape, you automatically forfeit the argument.

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 12, 2012 13:50:41 GMT -5 Lostcause said:

It's not only considered public, it's also something you as a user sign on to agree with, when you register.

Though admittedly it's the fewest who read the terms of agreement before checking the "I agree" box, I'm sure.

Have you seen the South Park episode HumanCentiPad?

Deals with this EXACT thing!

[purpledragon1229]

Feb 12, 2012 14:05:07 GMT -5 @pentadactyl said:

I've been steadfastly avoiding the threads upon threads about destiel and this damn poll (isn't it over yet?!). But this one managed to catch my attention, if only so long that I could regret that I spent any time on it.

Anyway, I'll say my piece and go back to ignoring this thread again:

1) I looked up the twitter exchange and I think calling it harassment is a massive exaggeration. For one thing, only part of the conversation has been relayed here.

It started, apparently, with Kim Rhodes retweeting

@kimrhodes4real Hey Kim, could you do us DeanCas fans a favor and bump this for some votes? eonline.com/news/watch_wit… Losing to Glee = no way!

That was followed by this conversation:

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real #RespectJensen stop promoting and forcing Destiel gay porn on him. stop forcing it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm totally lost. What???

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel is fanfic about Dean and Cas in a Gay relationship...Dean isnt gay,and neither is Jensen. Jensen doesnt deserve it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm still lost as to how I'm promoting it. I write a blog that has never put Jensen anywhere near a penis.

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel fans have been disrespectful in trying to force it on Jensen. Asking him about it at cons,and making these polls

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 Oooooooh. Got it. All I saw was that Glee was beating SPN. Sorry. Won't do it again.

waywardangels: @kimrhodes4real I am so, so sorry that you're getting so much flack over the E! Online poll. I hope you don't think less of the fans. =\

Kim Rhodes: @waywardangels If I have learned ANYTHING by now, it's that SPN fans are passionate. Sometimes about different things. ;-)

Leaving out the rest of the conversation is misleading. I know I was mislead by it. Leaving out the rest of the conversation covers up the fact that (a) this wasn't unprovoked badgering and was in response to a specific tweet, (b) that Kim Rhodes responses were less likely out of outrage (which is what it seemed like from the snippet) and more likely from confusion, and (c) that it was peacefully resolved.

I'm not saying anything about the larger discussion about the tact, or lack thereof, of this post or for that matter the poll itself. To paraphrase Leo McGarry, the length of that conversation far exceeds my interest in it. But let's at least represent all parties honestly.


2) Regarding accountability for what you post off-site, I think either way works, but we need to be consistent. On CWL, as far as I know, it was seen as in bad form. What people post elsewhere was their business. But if you want to go with something different on this site, I see nothing wrong with it and I can roll with that too.

3) Given all the fuss made about how slash is in response to the lack of genuine gay couples on screen, I find it funny that the (from what I understand) only canon gay pairing is losing badly to the (from what I understand) two non-canon pairings. I'd say this casts serious doubt on the argument that slash exists to compensate for ingrained homophobia in media.

4) I don't know what faberry is but it sounds like the next health craze. Acai berry, gogi berry, faberry.

5) Rape analogies need their own Godwin's law. You bring up rape, you automatically forfeit the argument.

Karma for you!

[sarahg6]

Feb 12, 2012 14:05:07 GMT -5 @pentadactyl said:

I've been steadfastly avoiding the threads upon threads about destiel and this damn poll (isn't it over yet?!). But this one managed to catch my attention, if only so long that I could regret that I spent any time on it.

Anyway, I'll say my piece and go back to ignoring this thread again:

1) I looked up the twitter exchange and I think calling it harassment is a massive exaggeration. For one thing, only part of the conversation has been relayed here.

It started, apparently, with Kim Rhodes retweeting

@kimrhodes4real Hey Kim, could you do us DeanCas fans a favor and bump this for some votes? eonline.com/news/watch_wit… Losing to Glee = no way!

That was followed by this conversation:

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real #RespectJensen stop promoting and forcing Destiel gay porn on him. stop forcing it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm totally lost. What???

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel is fanfic about Dean and Cas in a Gay relationship...Dean isnt gay,and neither is Jensen. Jensen doesnt deserve it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm still lost as to how I'm promoting it. I write a blog that has never put Jensen anywhere near a penis.

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel fans have been disrespectful in trying to force it on Jensen. Asking him about it at cons,and making these polls

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 Oooooooh. Got it. All I saw was that Glee was beating SPN. Sorry. Won't do it again.

waywardangels: @kimrhodes4real I am so, so sorry that you're getting so much flack over the E! Online poll. I hope you don't think less of the fans. =\

Kim Rhodes: @waywardangels If I have learned ANYTHING by now, it's that SPN fans are passionate. Sometimes about different things. ;-)

Leaving out the rest of the conversation is misleading. I know I was mislead by it. Leaving out the rest of the conversation covers up the fact that (a) this wasn't unprovoked badgering and was in response to a specific tweet, (b) that Kim Rhodes responses were less likely out of outrage (which is what it seemed like from the snippet) and more likely from confusion, and (c) that it was peacefully resolved.

I'm not saying anything about the larger discussion about the tact, or lack thereof, of this post or for that matter the poll itself. To paraphrase Leo McGarry, the length of that conversation far exceeds my interest in it. But let's at least represent all parties honestly.


2) Regarding accountability for what you post off-site, I think either way works, but we need to be consistent. On CWL, as far as I know, it was seen as in bad form. What people post elsewhere was their business. But if you want to go with something different on this site, I see nothing wrong with it and I can roll with that too.

3) Given all the fuss made about how slash is in response to the lack of genuine gay couples on screen, I find it funny that the (from what I understand) only canon gay pairing is losing badly to the (from what I understand) two non-canon pairings. I'd say this casts serious doubt on the argument that slash exists to compensate for ingrained homophobia in media.

4) I don't know what faberry is but it sounds like the next health craze. Acai berry, gogi berry, faberry.

5) Rape analogies need their own Godwin's law. You bring up rape, you automatically forfeit the argument.

I am glad you cleared that up. I always liked the poster in question and wondered why. Now I know, the first post is misleading. Reminds me of when a male admin here threatened to expose that poster's private dm's on twitter. I've not felt the same towards the one doing the threatening. Anyway, you remind me to take what I read with a grain of sand. I thank you again for that.

[sarahg6]

Feb 12, 2012 14:05:07 GMT -5 @pentadactyl said:

I've been steadfastly avoiding the threads upon threads about destiel and this damn poll (isn't it over yet?!). But this one managed to catch my attention, if only so long that I could regret that I spent any time on it.

Anyway, I'll say my piece and go back to ignoring this thread again:

1) I looked up the twitter exchange and I think calling it harassment is a massive exaggeration. For one thing, only part of the conversation has been relayed here.

It started, apparently, with Kim Rhodes retweeting

@kimrhodes4real Hey Kim, could you do us DeanCas fans a favor and bump this for some votes? eonline.com/news/watch_wit… Losing to Glee = no way!

That was followed by this conversation:

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real #RespectJensen stop promoting and forcing Destiel gay porn on him. stop forcing it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm totally lost. What???

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel is fanfic about Dean and Cas in a Gay relationship...Dean isnt gay,and neither is Jensen. Jensen doesnt deserve it

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 I'm still lost as to how I'm promoting it. I write a blog that has never put Jensen anywhere near a penis.

StoryAddict69: @kimrhodes4real Destiel fans have been disrespectful in trying to force it on Jensen. Asking him about it at cons,and making these polls

Kim Rhodes: @storyaddict69 Oooooooh. Got it. All I saw was that Glee was beating SPN. Sorry. Won't do it again.

waywardangels: @kimrhodes4real I am so, so sorry that you're getting so much flack over the E! Online poll. I hope you don't think less of the fans. =\

Kim Rhodes: @waywardangels If I have learned ANYTHING by now, it's that SPN fans are passionate. Sometimes about different things. ;-)

Leaving out the rest of the conversation is misleading. I know I was mislead by it. Leaving out the rest of the conversation covers up the fact that (a) this wasn't unprovoked badgering and was in response to a specific tweet, (b) that Kim Rhodes responses were less likely out of outrage (which is what it seemed like from the snippet) and more likely from confusion, and (c) that it was peacefully resolved.

I'm not saying anything about the larger discussion about the tact, or lack thereof, of this post or for that matter the poll itself. To paraphrase Leo McGarry, the length of that conversation far exceeds my interest in it. But let's at least represent all parties honestly.


2) Regarding accountability for what you post off-site, I think either way works, but we need to be consistent. On CWL, as far as I know, it was seen as in bad form. What people post elsewhere was their business. But if you want to go with something different on this site, I see nothing wrong with it and I can roll with that too.

3) Given all the fuss made about how slash is in response to the lack of genuine gay couples on screen, I find it funny that the (from what I understand) only canon gay pairing is losing badly to the (from what I understand) two non-canon pairings. I'd say this casts serious doubt on the argument that slash exists to compensate for ingrained homophobia in media.

4) I don't know what faberry is but it sounds like the next health craze. Acai berry, gogi berry, faberry.

5) Rape analogies need their own Godwin's law. You bring up rape, you automatically forfeit the argument.

I am glad you cleared that up. I always liked the poster in question and wondered why. Now I know, the first post is misleading. Reminds me of when a male admin here threatened to expose that poster's private dm's on twitter. I've not felt the same towards the one doing the threatening. Anyway, you remind me to take what I read with a grain of sand. I thank you again for that.

[Lostcause]

Contacting Kim Rhodes about forcing gay porn on Jensen, based on a retweet, is still what I'd call several steps on the wrong side of decency.

That said, it certainly does clarify some, and I'm glad to see Kim Rhodes managed to deflect the off putting visit in her tweetbox.