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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:26:03 GMT -5
Anti did you think it was only a coincidence that the narrator and the author share the same name do you think maybe there is some truth in this story My goodness! I did not think about the names being the same. No, I don't think there is truth to the story; I think the author wishes he knew someone like Owen who could help him to believe in miracles. |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:26:59 GMT -5
He was so absolutely special the last chapter broke my heart I was so sad to see him go
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:29:27 GMT -5
I was sad to see him go too. I wanted to see what else he would accomplish as he continued to make an impact on the people around him.
Were you surprised at the forceful stance he took with the teenager who had all those weapons?
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:32:59 GMT -5
It is such a fantastical story I think perhaps someone inspired him to write it maybe perhaps he only had a small friend in his youth who knows for me when I write a lot of times I take inspiration from around me sometimes just for a base or a beginning
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:35:31 GMT -5
Oh, sure, Irving probably knew someone who Owen reminds him of. I thought you meant did the author know a miracle worker who influenced the story. He might have, of course. LOL
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:36:09 GMT -5
I was very surprised! But that's Owen strong where others would be weak his concern for John and others were the first things he said he told John to get beside him and told all those children to lie down
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:38:47 GMT -5
I think Owen was strong because his faith never wavered. For just brief moments at a time, he did wonder if he interpreted his purpose correctly, but his faith in God never wavered where I could see.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:39:19 GMT -5
I was sad to see him go too. I wanted to see what else he would accomplish as he continued to make an impact on the people around him. Were you surprised at the forceful stance he took with the teenager who had all those weapons? I think someone that wonderful the world would have ruined after too long I believe Owen was strong but I think that was his destiny and if he would have hid from his destiny he would've hated himself forever |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:41:53 GMT -5
I think Owen was strong because his faith never wavered. For just brief moments at a time, he did wonder if he interpreted his purpose correctly, but his faith in God never wavered where I could see. That is very true owen like he did for John inspires me in my faith |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:44:02 GMT -5
I admire Owen he was always calm even right up til the end I think like you said it was his unwavering faith that gave him that strength
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:45:34 GMT -5
Did you think John was too critical of his father?
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:46:19 GMT -5
I was sad to see him go too. I wanted to see what else he would accomplish as he continued to make an impact on the people around him. Were you surprised at the forceful stance he took with the teenager who had all those weapons? I think someone that wonderful the world would have ruined after too long I believe Owen was strong but I think that was his destiny and if he would have hid from his destiny he would've hated himself forever I agree. After a period of time, Owen would have become more and more frustrated with the world and what people were doing to the world. He was outspoken and would never back down and that would have kept him conflict. I can imagine his disappointment if he lived his entire life believing he was God's instrument and then failed. That would have been unacceptable to Owen. |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:47:17 GMT -5
I thought he was I think Owen would have wanted him to start fresh with him if he could
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:50:28 GMT -5
Did you think John was too critical of his father? Thanks for bringing this up. This is one of the very important topics that I do not think we discussed in depth. No, I do not think he was too critical. His greatest disappointment seemed to be that his father's faith was not strengthened by the truth of Owen that was right there for him to see. If his father needed a miracle, Owen should have been enough. |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 19:56:38 GMT -5
Did you think John was too critical of his father? Thanks for bringing this up. This is one of the very important topics that I do not think we discussed in depth. No, I do not think he was too critical. His greatest disappointment seemed to be that his father's faith was not strengthened by the truth of Owen that was right there for him to see. If his father needed a miracle, Owen should have been enough. On the topic of his faith concerning Owen meany I agree on that part John was right to be critical of him I found myself angry that he could not believe |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 19:58:22 GMT -5
As far as being angry that his father was Rev. Merrill, I do not know how I expected John to react. I remember Owen warning him he would be disappointed when he learned of his parentage. I think John's anger was normal because his father was there all that time and made no effort to have a relationship. The confession of wishing John's mother would drop dead did not set up parameters for a close relationship either. I know I give long-winded responses.  |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:00:17 GMT -5
Watchtower, are you here with us?
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:00:35 GMT -5
John showed some of his fathers doubt concerning Owens birth
did you believe that part about Owen being a virgin birth
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:03:02 GMT -5
John showed some of his fathers doubt concerning Owens birth did you believe that part about Owen being a virgin birth That gave me a brain freeze. After the description that was given of Owen's parents, I refuse to even think about what went on (or did not go on) in their bedroom.  |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:04:26 GMT -5
As far as being angry that his father was Rev. Merrill, I do not know how I expected John to react. I remember Owen warning him he would be disappointed when he learned of his parentage. I think John's anger was normal because his father was there all that time and made no effort to have a relationship. The confession of wishing John's mother would drop dead did not set up parameters for a close relationship either. I know I give long-winded responses. ![]() I agree there were issues that caused a strain on them preventing any functional relationship |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:06:50 GMT -5
John showed some of his fathers doubt concerning Owens birth did you believe that part about Owen being a virgin birth That gave me a brain freeze. After the description that was given of Owen's parents, I refuse to even think about what went on (or did not go on) in their bedroom. ![]() Lol very very true Im still a little shocked at the twins parents rendezvous and what they said during could you believe that! |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:09:21 GMT -5
I was shocked too. But that was a little funny though.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:10:28 GMT -5
It was funny but vivid lol!!!!!  |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:13:33 GMT -5
I am curious. Have you ever read a story that used "armlessness" as a plot point before? I have not.
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:15:52 GMT -5
It was funny but vivid lol!!!!! It was funny because I kept imagining Owen being so close to it. It still makes me laugh. |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:20:13 GMT -5
I loved how John would always use his stump either for intimidation or humor
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:21:23 GMT -5
I am curious. Have you ever read a story that used "armlessness" as a plot point before? I have not. Not that I can readily recall |
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Post by AntiArbitrator on Feb 24, 2013 20:22:15 GMT -5
Oh yes, I thought that was funny too. It would get his students' attention. It was even funnier when he would irritate that rude or bossy professor with the stump.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:22:40 GMT -5
It was funny but vivid lol!!!!! It was funny because I kept imagining Owen being so close to it. It still makes me laugh. I think it will always make me laugh! |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Feb 24, 2013 20:24:53 GMT -5
Oh yes, I thought that was funny too. It would get his students' attention. It was even funnier when he would irritate that rude or bossy professor with the stump. I loved that he was planing to pretend to pick his nose to freak her out lol |
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