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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:06:38 GMT -5
Yes and me as well
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:12:55 GMT -5
Right off in chapter 62 we see that the people on the west are busy
Flagg knew about the judge right down to specifics
They are studying up on jets and they have a few that know how to fly.
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 19:13:24 GMT -5
The scene with Dayna was particularly horrific for me, because Randall Flagg first made it seem like he was sending her back to deliver a message, and like her, for just a second we allowed ourselves to believe it.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:15:35 GMT -5
There's a bit of troublesome thought at the possibility of a spy in the free zone
And then even more troublesome the theory of Flagg just knowing which is chilling enough within itself
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:18:08 GMT -5
That is one of the horrors of Flagg but the committee made a good choice in sending dayna she's strong stubborn and willing to stand up against terrifying odds I thought she was brave
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 19:20:05 GMT -5
I don't think that was the case, though, because after Harold he had naught, right?
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 19:22:42 GMT -5
I don't know if I would have the strength to take myself out, like Dayna did, on a shard of glass. She and the Judge were selfless and beyond brave in the way they faced death and ultimate evil.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:22:51 GMT -5
I love the way this chapter is told, fauna gives you the full account of what she sees knows feels but she does it confidently so instead of complete fear I feel radiating off these pages a knowledge that it's a bad situation but her faith strength and bravery comfort me letting me know the free zone needn't worry things will go as planned
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:24:42 GMT -5
I completely agree I admire them for their strength
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:27:26 GMT -5
And what strange names are attributed to Flagg but I feel whatever they call him even those in the west are getting the basic knowledge that Flagg is an embodiment of all evil
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 19:32:28 GMT -5
I think that in the beginning of the chapter, when they are calling him 'RF' instead of his scarier names it's a sign of how far he has fallen amongst his own people.
In radio 'RF' is a distortion in the broadcast signal. Something that causes interference.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:32:58 GMT -5
And also as dayna points out on pg 932
"If he had known about the Judge didn't it stand to reason that he knew about her?"
What a scary thought, and I think again that displays the courage and bravery that dayna has because that simple terrifying thought surely would have driven anyone else out but that just goes to show the kind of smart thinking that went into choosing dayna
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:37:49 GMT -5
Very interesting moon and isnt that exactly what Flagg is doing
Perhaps after he has those people in the west under his thumb he shows his true self and even the oblivious people in the west can't help but see and know the chilling truth of rf
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 19:50:29 GMT -5
The final scene in the chapter lets us know that things aren't going so well in the West:
"First the Judge, now the woman, and neither one had talked. Neither had been unmarked, as he had asked. . . It was hard for them to believe. The wind blew hard all night."
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 19:50:41 GMT -5
What did you think when dayna spotted Tom Cullen Moon that spells Tom Cullen  |
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 20:06:26 GMT -5
In terms of the story she had to see Tom. Otherwise she wouldn't have had any secrets for Flagg to ferret out, and wouldn't have had to sacrifice herself.
At that point we also needed to know that Tom Cullen had made it there, so it was beautifully (and tragically) constructed, I thought.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 20:16:34 GMT -5
That's right
It was beautiful I especially liked the lines
"That face looking up at her
That wide smiling wondering face"
It spoke straight to my heart of toms innocence
And in the movie I loved when Flagg said he couldn't figure out who the other spy was all he kept seeing was the moon what a beautiful secret connection that only dayna and other free zoners would understand
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 20:19:39 GMT -5
Darn, you're making me anxious to get to the mini-series now. It's been ages since I've seen it. Hopefully we can do a synchro-watch after we finish the novel.
So, chapter 63 next week? I'll post my days off soon as I get my schedule.
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 20:25:18 GMT -5
What about that terrible moment when dayna has been discovered and they are all staring at her accusingly I can understand why she thought she was dreaming
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 20:27:07 GMT -5
Yes 63 for Our next meet let me know your schedule as you get it and we can move the meets to something more appropriate
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 20:31:19 GMT -5
What about that terrible moment when dayna has been discovered and they are all staring at her accusingly I can understand why she thought she was dreaming Me too. It seemed like a nightmare. This was one of the most chilling scenes in the book for me. |
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 1, 2013 20:32:38 GMT -5
Yes 63 for Our next meet let me know your schedule as you get it and we can move the meets to something more appropriate Will do. I'll post it as soon as I get it. Enjoyed tonight greatly--I'd missed this. Glad your internet is up and running again. |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 1, 2013 21:03:27 GMT -5
Def me too moon I have missed our book club meets
I will post my other thoughts on this chapter tomorrow
Goodnight moon
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 8, 2013 1:09:02 GMT -5
I've only got one night off this week. Tuesday night. Does that by chance work for you?
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 12, 2013 19:40:00 GMT -5
Tuesday as in the coming Tuesday? And I'm still waiting on my schedule they wait til the last minute for some reason But I hope I'll have Tuesday off I should anyways lol |
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 15, 2013 17:15:58 GMT -5
Ok I'll be here at eight idk if you meant today or not but either way I'll be here
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Post by gilmorefanalways on Oct 15, 2013 19:02:31 GMT -5
Seems like we will start with chapter 63
It's a short chapter going from page 956 to 958
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 19, 2013 15:09:32 GMT -5
Tuesday as in the coming Tuesday? And I'm still waiting on my schedule they wait til the last minute for some reason But I hope I'll have Tuesday off I should anyways lol Hey Jen, Sorry, I should have written 'tonight' in my post, as that's the Tuesday I had off. However, I'm not working tonight, so I can do it at our regular time if you're free too. |
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 22, 2013 19:52:09 GMT -5
Sorry I missed you, Jen. I'm off this coming Sat. night as well.
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Post by Mistermoonlight on Oct 26, 2013 19:12:55 GMT -5
I'm here, and figured I'd just go ahead and post, whether you're able to make it tonight or not.
As you said, chapter 63 is very short--just two pages--and serves to give us another glimpse of Tom Cullen in Las Vegas. The little boy Dinny loves Tom, probably because on one level they are a lot alike. When Tom takes his leave, saying he's got to get to his home, I wondered if that meant 'time to go back to Boulder.'
Then we see a character we've not seen in quite a while, Julie Lawry, appear and can see that she has put two and two together and knows that Tom Cullen is the spy. Uh-oh.
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